The following is a short interview conducted via e-mail with the Mother...
Many thanks for agreeing to answer a few questions regarding your daughter's story....As you know I referenced in on a post I wrote on my blog about gender loyalty in females. For me it seemed like an excellent example of gender loyalty because it cut across family ties, so I just wanted to understand a bit more backround about your beliefs and principles if that's OK?
-Hi Xaan! I am flattered that you sent me this mail to talk about the subject. Let's start!!
1) Would you describe yourself as believer in Female Supremacy?
-Hum...Good question! Supremacy is a term which I can't relate very much, I can say that I believe that a matriarchal society would work better than the one where we, sadly, are condemned to live. But reversing the oppresion and committing the same mistakes made by men is something I can't find appealing. Altough...Marx said that the peaceful living among classes should be proceded by a proletarian dictatorship. So, maybe before a peaceful coexistence between the sexes we need some centuries of female supremacy? Who knows?!? Ahahaha...
2) When your daughter first mentioned that she wanted to switch from Gymnastics to Judo, the sport your son was involved in, what was your reaction?
-I just said GO GIRL!!! Of course I had to encourage her
3) How soon after this did she mention taking on her brother at Judo?
-She did not. If he didn't start to taunt her, she would never had challenged him. This wasn't in her plans.
4) At 5 years yonger and many years less experience than her brother, on paper this was a hopeless mis-match. What made you think she could succeed in her plan, why did you have so much faith in her ability?
-Of course all those years as a gymnast shaped her body and her mind to train much harder than my son was used to. She had better conditioning and had surely more stamina and explosive strenght. Plus, she has a very high I.Q.! Above 160. I always said that fighting is skills and brain before raw strenght. I don't know the I.Q. of my son because he never measured it but... I expected her to provide a better fighting tactic than him and in fact, she did :)
5) For even allowing this contest to go-ahead, would I be right in thinking that not only were you confident in a female over male victory, you were actually relishing it? If so, could you elaborate as to why?
-When I was taking my second degree (in philosophy) I was attending a seminar about Carla Lonzi. One of her senteces remained stuck inside my head "Is important with men to quit the values they created for you". Then, I could not understand my feminists companions that, after their first child, they gave up and betrayed their ideology for maternal instinct and became overprotective especially with their sons. The first thing I told to myself was that I would had never allow that, and that I would had act inside the family like with strangers. When my son told my daughter "You will never succeed in a martial arts, do dance instead like all the good girls" I thought to myself "Mmm, maybe he deserves a lesson"
6) Do you generally enjoy seeing females beat males in physical contests even on tv and film?
-Ahahah, if there is a fight, of course I root for the girl! But I prefer other kind of movies rather than action flicks. Tarkovsky is my favorite director I would say.
7) Can you describe how you felt when your daughter succeeded in tapping out her older brother, your son. Was it any different?
-I felt...Like a thrill running down my spine!! I was so excited when she got him in that hold!! I was just a bit disappointed that the match was one-sided. I honestly expected a better performance from him, but he was probably beaten psychologically even before than physically, when he understood he didn't stand a chance. So he couldn't stand the tension, let himself go, panicked, and...PUF! The strong, black belt alpha male was trapped in his 16 years old kid sister!! What a shame!!
8) Do you believe this was a fluke, a one-off, or would your daughter have won a re-match?
-Absolutely no fluke. He was thinking about asking a rematch at a certain point, but I persuaded him to forget about the idea. She would had easily mopped the floor with him again.
9) Would you agree that females are only considered physically weak as a result of centuries of social conditioning and that the truth is that females have the potential to physically surpass men?
-Ha! Well of course men benefit by keeping us weak and ignorant...Of course, women are beginning to show their value in many fields. If we will ever surpass them, I can't say. I don't think women will ever be stronger physically. But we have much more aces to play!!
10) Did you / Do you feel any guilt about siding with your female child over your male child?
-Oh no way!! They had a match (under his insistence), the better fighter won, that's all!! After that fight, he may have lost a belt, but he gained something much more valuable in experience ;)
That's it for now. I look forward to your responses and will probably have more questions....
Many thanks
Xaan
-My pleasure! I found this talk very stimulating, I hope you did enjoy the time as well. All the best...
The Mother
Xaan
-My pleasure! I found this talk very stimulating, I hope you did enjoy the time as well. All the best...
The Mother
My 2 cents: honestly I think that this mother was called to a very difficult task and acted in the best possible way. If she'd take the brother's part (which clearly deserved a lesson, reading the interview) she would had probably cause her daughter's anger and frustration for being in the right and yet being forced to face the society's oppression (which women know well). If she'd act like she did she probably has to face the critics of being a nazifeminist, misandric, "castrating" her own son, etc...
ReplyDeleteReading the interview is pretty clear that she doesn't love the daughter more than the son and that she would probably have preferred not to assist to that match. But, inevitable, she was involved in that sibling rivalry dynamic and she was forced to make some choices, in a way or another. By the way if the brother suffered from performance anxiety and lost in a miserable way, maybe he wasn't that good. I mean, a good fighter is not only about skills and strenght, but should even know how to mantain steady nerves when in a troubled situation.
Anyway this doesn't diminish the girl's achievement. So I say "well done" both to the mom and the daughter :)
oh I just loved this
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't think we 'll ever be physically stronger than men? Please someone inform her we already are. Regarding the other aces of ours however, I have to admit she's right.
ReplyDeleteI don't think think women are stronger now but they are definitely closing the gap. Will they ever surpass men in the raw strength category? I don't know, maybe if trends continue. However, I think the Mom really nails it when she refers to the other "aces". They are numerous and, as I have found, when combined with the great strength that females can achieve it can result in a very dangerous fighter.
ReplyDeleteOf course physical strength can be measured different ways. On a pound for pound basis in terms of muscle fibers, there is no clear strength difference between male and female muscle tissue in terms of the basic structure, but when it comes to the actual function of those muscles, females have a huge advantage in endurance, flexibility and control. If a male and a female have exactly the same amount of muscle, the woman's superiority becomes obvious. Men rely on sheer size and brute force but males fatigue far more quickly than women, and the male nervous system is far less responsive. Ultimately a trained woman can take advantage of female physiological advantages over males so that she can prevail over larger males with bigger muscles. It will happen more and more as women become aware of their real strengths.
DeleteA real woman is always going to have an advantage in pure brute force against any man. Lazy "women" are not real women. Don't judge the stronger gender by its fake examples.
DeleteYou don't think women are stronger now? How often do you see a guy break out of a female scissor hold? Suze
DeleteMen can't break out of a female bearhug. Their legs are much weaker than our arms. Scissoring him is easier, therefore less suitable for making our point. Next time you wrestle a man try a bearhug. That will show you the true power of female biceps.
DeleteYboy, you make a good point. Even if the overall muscle mass may favor the male due to size differences ( in general) the quality of the muscle movement as well as the endurance seem to definitely favor the female.
DeleteI have witnessed first hand several women learn how to take advantage of these traits. Their abilities become quite scary at that point.
Ha, you would like us to be smaller. More and more of us are becoming taller and more muscular than you men. I assume you need to pretend we're smaller just so you can avoid seeing certain types of nightmares.
DeleteAnonymous, you are, on average, smaller. Both shorter and with less overall muscle mass. I don't think this is debatable. As I said in my first post, I think the strength gap is closing and at some point women may become stronger overall. But that is not the case yet. I said in my last post the quality of the female muscle seems to be higher than in men. But I'm no scientist, this is just conjecture.
DeleteI am not debating anything. I am only asserting facts. Lazy "women" may be smaller and less muscular, but those are not real women and can't be taken seriously. Brute strength is the pinnacle of femininity. Masculinity is weakness. Men's so called "brute strength" is just aggression, not strength. Aggression is weakness. Aggressive men are the easiest to beat in a fight, I know this from experience. No amount of theory or social convention is going to beat that.
DeleteGood points "anonymous". Also I'm not sure I agree that men have a greater "overall muscle mass. Maybe in the upper body, but female muscle mass tends to be concentrated in the lower body and is often quite substantial, so when compared overall, I would argue that it is roughly the same...
DeleteThen you haven't seen the upper body of a real woman. You're in for quite a shock. Social convention wants us to look like "top models", but a real woman never obeys such misogynist crap. She lifts heavy, every day lots of reps each exercise. A real woman never follows a man's opinion. She imposes her law on him by sheer brute force instead. If he dares disobey this law, her only valid option is to beat him up until he cries. So here we come to the point. The real woman is easily able to beat him using just her arms if she wants. One of my friends had to put a man in place, so she opted for a half-power slap. Ummm, it turns out his neck was more fragile than she thought.
DeleteOh I have, nothing shocks me. It's certainly true that some women have impressive upper body muscle mass, but we are talking in general terms here. There are also plenty of women who can generate incredible upper body strength without necessarily being heavily built - again this is down to the quality of muscle as opposed to the size. Totally agree about the MO of the Real Woman..
DeleteI am also talking in general terms. Lazy "women" are too small to be taken seriously, so I only count real women for the facts I assert here. Additionally note that men lack muscle quality in comparison to women, not to smaller men.
Delete@Brad, Women's power can indeed be scary for males once we understand what the stronger sex it truly capable of. The continued advance of women into formerly male arenas of physical strength and endurance is astounding. I think that fear of true female power is always part of the male psyche even if a male doesn't admit it.
DeleteFear of women's power is what motivates males to relentlessly put obstacles up to stop women's progress.
With the subnote that those obstacles look ridiculous against a real woman.
Deleteand seeing how easily those obstacles are moved out of the way of a real woman shocks a man even more.
DeleteThe entire history of patriarchy is a continuous struggle to keep women down. Patriarchy has resorted to all forms of violence and oppression to prevent Woman from rising to Her natural position above males. We can only wonder how males were ever able to create patriarchy in the first place, except that it was based on a time when women trusted that males could be allowed to have any degree of power in early societies, which males used ruthless and violent methods to overtake women, who were peaceful and trusting in a time when they could not have predicted the treacherous turn that patriarchy would take.
DeleteEver since then, women have resisted patriarchy, and it has been a seemingly eternal battle of the sexes — both sexes struggling for ultimate control. But we all know that when a struggle goes on for long enough, which sex has the greater endurance, we all know who has the strength that only increases over time. We all know which sex is the one with the natural leadership skills, the stronger mind and the superior physiology.
The long struggle to determine the fate of patriarchy is reaching its conclusion. Patriarchy is now a crumbling edifice, a poorly constructed house of cards that is collapsing even as the power of the superior sex grows to exceed any male ability to interfere.
Men try to place obstacles in Women's way, but those attempts are now far too feeble to matter as the more powerful sex ploughs through the crumbled remains of patriarchy.
The part that can be frightening to a male is that the realms of strength, power and fighting ability always seemed to be our last bastion of control in a world where women were increasingly out performing men in every other metric.
DeleteIf women really can become dominant in those areas it will be game over for the status quo. The real question is, as alluded to by the Mom, does this lead to Centuries of Female Domination, or some sort of equality. I do fear the fact that males will probably resort to violence to keep this from happening as well as the severity of the female response to this. Maybe I am fearing the worst but that seems like the most likely scenario given current trends.
I believe it all depends on each individual woman. My mother is clearly the most physically capable person in the family, but is very low-key about it. She is the undeniable leader, we admire her, but she isn't interested in giving us slave roles. Our situation is closer to equality of rights, with only the basic dose of female dominance, albeit we all know our leader is easily capable of... overdosing us with female dominance. Can't see what is so humiliating about admitting a woman's strength. It is all normal and works nicely. Babis
DeleteLucky you, sounds like your mother is a real woman.
DeleteReading the interview is pretty clear that the mother's loyalty was inspired by a deeply rational thought and not by emotions. I liked the fact that she has no reticence admitting the physical and intellectual superiority of the girl over the male. I enjoyed this story so much, thank you.
ReplyDeleteIt's very interesting and telling how the son was also much mentally weaker than the aughter even though he's five years older.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, I still think you are exaggerating, or comparing the top women to men over all including the "lazy men". And I think Xaan is correct that Males still have more upper body mass. Lower body might be another story.
ReplyDeleteYou had mentioned that I was trying to avoid "seeing certain kinds of nightmares". My first reaction to that was to dismiss it but to be fair, there is a bit of that in there. The changing of the guard that seems to be a possibility is indeed a frightening one to us men. Given the nature of men, there will be a lot of resistance to any seeming matriarchal shift in power. The males strength and aggression has always been his first line of defense. Will that be enough if trends continue? I don't know.
No, I am not exaggerating or anyhow being unfair. The facts I assert here come from the experiences of myself and my friends and not from somewhere on the internet. We are the stronger gender. Lazy "women" do not comply with the real woman's role. They are a result of social convention made up by men because in early human history we had a very passive mentality and the weaker gender took the chance and fucked it all up. But now the real woman knows all this and takes measures against it. Playing her down will not make you look smart when her measures touch you.
DeleteAmen to that, Anonymous. My mother is exactly as you say a real woman has to be, she just doesn't brag about being so. I know about the wrongs of the male gender and would like to apologise on behalf of us all for them, albeit I understand an apology alone is not going to finish the matter. There is work for humanity to do on this so I won't try to deny the role I have to fulfil. That would be a waste of time and we don't want that to happen, do we? Babis
DeleteI understand her. When you're this strong and it shows in your natural looks, you neither have to talk about it nor be a showoff. People get it - if someone does not, that is for his own bad...
DeleteFantastic mother. I this that the publishing of this interview is another dowel in the humiliation process of the sexist brother. I agree with the comment on the original post,a double interview sister/brother would be the perfect way to end this saga on the blog. Does someone agree?
ReplyDeleteI agree the mother is fantastic and a true inspiration. To be fair though, in publishing this, it was never my intention to add to the humiliation of the brother - as far as I'm concerned, that was achieved at the time and is done and dusted. That said of course any males reading the articles will feel the burn of the brother's humiliation on their own egos, which is an added bonus. My main motivation for publishing the interview was to illustrate what female gender loyalty looks like and how smart and strong willed one sometimes has to be to resist the social pressure to capitulate to patriarchal norms...
ReplyDeleteWhat the mother said about physical strength is a patriarchal opinion - men don't have the right to make norms anyway. The one absolute law regarding this matter is that the girl cannot be a real woman before she exceeds all men in brute strength.
DeleteI am sorry to read so many ridiculous trolling (or delusional) comments. This blog has a great potential but reading so many bullshit posts which deny the truth (probably written by horny males happy to live their fantasy) is really off-putting. I hope that Xaan will avoid the publishing some idiot comments. By a feminist.
DeleteWell I do try to weed out the worst comments. We actually don't get very many nasty or negative comments at all. Most males commenting are supportive and I don't have a problem with that, even if that support is driven by fantasy. That said I have introduced a stricter criteria recently.
DeleteI am aware of similar sentiments amongst female readers and the post entitled "Update 2020" details the changes I have made to the blog in response. However, I really do not hold with the recent "millennial" phenomenon of never having to hear or read an opinion that differs to one's own. I was brought up to challenge and debate ideas that I didn't agree with and I am a fighter at heart, so I deliberately publish comments that "deny the truth" so that they can be shot down and debunked. I actually enjoy doing that and I'm a bit surprised that more women don't take the opportunity. As Amazons we should be prepared to take on patriarchal BS wherever we find it. This is a radical blog after all...
I loved reading the interview you had with "the mother" and I think she is a very smart, loving mother. It seems that it's the brothers own fault for getting beaten by his younger sisters superior skill and intelect. If he hadn't taunted her, the fight would probably not have taken place. It's amazing that she has an I.Q. of over 160, that's really a very high score and shows she is very intelligent. "The mothers" answer to your first questions makes me wonder what the state of a man's mind would be after centuries of female supremacy.
DeleteI am male and no fake and troll and i am experience in over 200 real competitive mixed wrestling matches against sessiongirls or private.Many women said me it is fantastic to wrestle a strong guy as me not always this old fetish guys!
DeleteI am a real strong opponent and many women said me that they really proud when they can beat me!
Women said she understand for me it is very tough to losing a women and for a while i lose my manhood but she said me it is a sign that i will really win and tough fighting not a fetish thing!
Many women i wrestle are very interested in real tough fights and want seriously mess with me i think thats real feminism too.
Sometimes i win sometimes i lose but often i was impressive then women can easy handle me(i am 90kg).
I go then from a normal session wrestling in to a opponent for real combat women in wrestling or bjj to prepare her for tournaments.
I am strong guy but accepted then often i was the inferior part to women.
Great comment- thanks! You are correct, most "real women" shall we say, will want tough fights, there is nothing satisfying about beating a guy if he is not trying his best. Winning a tough fight against a guy can leave you buzzing for days...
DeleteThanks.It is good for me too then in the women eyes i am not weak.
DeleteOften women said me that she treat me very hard that i give up for a submission point!
I don't find male comments "off-putting" it doesn't bother me to hear them admit they are inferior to us, or their attempts at criticising the Amazon movement. I think some of the female readers of this blog, would just rather males didn't comment at all. It's this kind of fragility that I find off-putting. Thyra
DeleteThanks Thyra. Indeed, the irony is that if more females bothered to comment, I perhaps wouldn't feel the need to publish so may male comments.
DeleteI think it's great that you publish both supporting comments as comments from men who criticize what is presented here. So far you girls did a great job refuting such criticism.
DeleteI started mixed wrestling then i have the same situation as the son i was 25 age and wrestle a 15 age very strong young women she beat me twice!!!
DeleteNormally i was not interested in gender battling before and i no talk in other forum or blog then it is in this to many fetish guys and fakes and i am interesting in real sport gender battles.
Normally i never comments in forums then i do contact with my women wrestling opponents private and we prepare or organized our next fights.
At least it was interesting the story from the son then it was the same then the 15 age girl has really destroy me in twice wrestling fights and i was started in mixed wrestling!
I have a suggestion. Why don't you offer an "Open Thread" post every once in a while?
ReplyDeleteGreat idea, although all threads are all kind of open. What kind of format did you have in mind?
DeleteThe problem is that we can't start new threads, we can only comment on existing threads. If you create a "dummy" "open thread" (with minimal text, just a greeting), we would be free to discuss anything for a period time. This will also reduce the clutter on the other threads.
DeleteAh, right, consider it done....
DeleteA very safe interview, The Mother wasn't pressed to justify the most controversial aspect of this match, being why did she allow his one sided thumping to continue after he tapped? True spirit of martial arts and sportship for end of match rivalry should finish with acknowledgement, mutual respect and a hand shake
ReplyDeleteNOT a continued beatdown and humiliation just because he was an alpha male blackbelt. It crosses the line from justifying feminism to sexist man hate.
She already quotes a tyrannical dictator, Marx, earlier in the interview to justify a femdom dictatorship! Smething NOT on the agenda for the majority of feminists!
One thing of maternal mercy she did show though was persuading him not to demand a rematch. That would have been his ego forcing him to do something suicidal, without his mother to warn him of his stupidity, the second match would only see his sister giving him an even more brutal lesson in girl power than the one before, I imagine she would have been even more nasty! I also suspect he was secretly pleased to be told not to rematch. He must be genuinely scared of and intimidated by her now?
Did both siblings continue competition? I know the sister did, to great success, was this against other men as well? Did the brother compete before his eventual retirement? and how did his loss effect subsequent matches? - i know it wasn't long after his defeat that he realized he didn't have what it takes, against girls at least
In what reality is Marx a tyrannical dictator? Read a book
DeleteErr, she didn't it was just a victory pose. This wasn't an officially sanctioned match, therefore not subject to the usual etiquette or "spirit". Both the mother and sister loved and still love the brother - so no "man hate" there. Marx was never a "tyrannical dictator" although his ideology has been adopted by tyrannical dictators - that doesn't mean that nothing he ever said was true.
DeleteGood point about the maternal mercy I suppose. If the mother had ill intent, she would have encouraged a re-match surely? But of course she did the opposite. Not sure what the answers are to your other questions regarding what happened next. Perhaps the sister can enlighten us if she reads this comment?
Xaan your water'd down printed account was 'it's just a victory pose.' but you know damn well he got subjected to an unjustified humiliating, savage and vicious fembrutality as the sister says in another thread;
Delete"Oh, Xaan knows all the details and I can swear that she avoided some details to make look the female revenge a bit softer ��his humiliation was much worse than that!
The sister" -- just one quote of many on the other thread admitting to alot more than a belt strip and foot on chest pose!!! As asked before This needs to be clarified and justified in a less biased interview!
this treatment of men I fear is ultimately going to cause unnecessary antagonism between the genders. It's almost provoking men to fight to give a reason for the need of Amazons, when really we just need an equal fair society. As the Mother says, we have many aces to play, we don't need to beat men at masculine attributes just because we can, there is so much more to be said about soft femininity and feminism, and equal family values.
Women have a lot of pressure as it is without being told we have to fight men, what if you're a feminist who just wants to get along with equal rights, pay and job opportunities but still want to be delicate and gentle in stead of a shehulk man beater?
Whatever about Marx, you know what i mean re justifying femdom dictatorship!
The account I gave is not really watered down. The fight itself is as described by the sister. The details that I omitted were in relation to what happened after the fight in terms of humiliation factor, not the fight, so there really isn't a lot more to it and I'm afraid you have jumped to the wrong conclusion there.
DeleteSo you don't think that there is already a state of "antagonism between the genders"? In that case, why be a feminist? Did you miss the part in the story where the fight actually came about because of the antagonism from the brother? You have it the wrong way around, it's women that are being provoked to fight by being told they can't, by men.
"we don't need to beat men at masculine attributes"?? Firstly, who decided physical strength was masculine attribute? Being feminine and physically strong are not mutually exclusive. No-one is telling women they have to fight men, this account merely illustrates what can be achieved and if you really are a feminist who just wants to get along with equal rights, pay and job opportunities but still want to be delicate and gentle - then I can't see why you're not happy with the status quo...
Xaan, your opponent in this debate is not a real woman and definitely not a feminist, by any definition of the term. I will say you exposed him nicely.
DeleteOne thing I find interesting, having just reread the interview, is how much stronger mentally the sister was. This seems to be one of the "aces" the mother refers to. Another is, I have found that when a female senses she has the upper hand her whole demeanor changes and she really goes in for the kill. In my BJJ encounters I would say that it is a lot scarier when losing to a woman than a guy. Often they make sure to inflict that extra bit of pain. Is this just based on my somewhat limited experience or true across the board? I'm not sure
ReplyDeleteI don't know about BJJ, but in catch we are a lot rougher than men. Mixed gender bouts aren't really common, but I assume this is just because in the end it always looks like some bull rammed the man. Not bragging about myself, any woman in good condition can make it look that way.
DeleteI wasn't sure what Catch was so I looked it up. No, I don't think I would be on the losing end in one of those matches. One of the woman at our club also boxes and does MMA. She is new to BJJ but has picked it up very quickly and has forced me to tap several times now when practicing. The fact that she could punch most mens lights out makes her even more intimidating on the mat. I've always felt that I could beat most in women in striking but but I thought that about grappling as well
ReplyDeleteI don't know what was the condition of the women in the bouts you found on the internet. Condition matters much more than gender, or all same-gender bouts would be tight as hell.
DeleteOh, they looked like they were in pretty good conditiIon!
ReplyDeleteI just noticed on my post above that I said " I don't think I would be on the losing end in one of those matches" Actually what I ment to say is "I wouldn't want to be on the losing end in one of those matches"
To be honest of the women I saw fighting online it's pretty safe to say I would be on the losing end of ALL of those matches!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
ReplyDeleteThis boy was totally owned by the women of his family. I wonder how he feels about this, now
No, it is just that women are much more potent than taken seriously. Female fragility is a myth, very well conserved even by women themselves who prefer to get trapped in the fashion bubble and eat up all their time at the hairdresser and the "beauty salon" instead of working on their talents. Women with serious training are much better athletes than us men, but too few in numbers to prove anything to the mass. Most women just want to avoid grafting, at all costs. They don't realise that the main cost of this is their health.
ReplyDeleteI Love this ... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bXWO6MTOp-k/XyT8yVPdS3I/AAAAAAAAGQk/Ad0yB12pu40IEWqQFyt6gs7PhqonouFWACLcBGAsYHQ/s2048/_MG_6154_edited-1.jpg
ReplyDeleteWow if this picture had a caption it would be "In Charge!"
ReplyDeleteWhich seems to fit much of female to male interactions these days!
Indeed @Brad. Or it could be called "The Natural Order" https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-43iNbltjBaM/XyT8128UlKI/AAAAAAAAGRM/2RAfM7r88dEvcAYWbNFX2nrLVoa058v5gCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/_MG_6204_edited-1.jpg
DeleteInteresting how the word "fragile" is more and more associated with the male than the female.
ReplyDeleteXaan said that she avoided some details about the aftermath of the match. Reading this interview I think I understood what happened. If my guess is correct this poor brother is doomed
ReplyDeleteI am a male, I read this blog post and the previous one about the sibling rivalry. I am a grappler, brown belt in bjj, and I have a younger sister who trains too, but she is a blue belt. After this reading I was curious to test her, so I proposed her a match. Believe me or not, but the match ended with a submission via triangle choke, and I was on the losing side. I am still trying to figure out what went wrong. Maybe I need to ask her a rematch?!?
ReplyDeleteIt's obvious what went "wrong". You got beat by a superior fighter! Yet another case of a younger. less experienced female, destroying an older more experienced male Yessss! You can ask for a rematch, but you will probably lose again. She's got your number now and more confidence. She's your boss now! Go Girl!!! Suze
DeleteIf someone is interested I can give an accurate account of the match. But maybe you are not interested, we can't pretend a "sibling war" subforum on the blog. Anyway maybe hearing a male voice could be interesting. I don't know.
DeleteYou can give it a try, but I will only publish it if I think it is genuine and not purely a male fantasy...
Delete@anonymous, If you're trying to figure out "what went wrong" your answer is in the first thing you said: "I am a male"
ReplyDeleteHi everyone. The "mother" is my high school teacher. I am attending the last year and I want to present a final project about feminism, sport and empowerment for my diploma, so she suggested me this blog (and othere sources, of course). I like it very much, I would be honored to take place to the discussions :)
ReplyDeleteGiovanna
Hi Giovanna. Welcome to the blog, I hope you have found the articles and comments here interesting? Feel free to add observations, ask questions etc...
DeleteHi Xaan. Yes, I find the blog extremely interesting, thank you! I would like to add a little observation for now, about what I read in the posts about this sibling rivalry, may I? First of all it's really sad that a lot of people (women too from what I read) complain about the humiliation factor that took place AFTER the match: it's true that she performed a victory pose on him and that she stripped him of his belt, but this happened only after the match took place, when he already called out his submission. Is that permitted in an official match? Of course not. But this wasn't an official match so it's sad that someone claims to consider the outcome of the match not valid. She did not cheat during the match, and yet he lost. If she'd shook his hand and hugged him after the match, like it happens in the official competitions, would the result had been different? My idea is that focusing on the humiliation factor to diminish the girl's achievement is the typical patriarchal strategy to attack women when they don't show features like empathy, forgiveness, submissiviness. My 2 cents is that if the boy'd just lost the fight, the comments wold have been different, like the ones you read under youtube videos of mixed matches in high school. Bue since he did not only lose but he was humiliated, the female victory burns more. I hope that this story teachs something: yes, women may not be submissive, empathic and with the intention to forgive, so if you bully one outside of an official competition, you may get your ass handed to you. Sorry for the language.
DeleteAbsolutely Giovanna! I think some of those comments are actually from men claiming to be women in an attempt to give their views more weight, but there are also women who claim to be feminist who have a problem with this incident, which I just find incredible. I think some women are just so programmed to protect male egos that they can't see past this in order to acknowledge female achievement. They fail to realise that men did not get their dominant position in society by going easy, or being "fair" on women, they did it by exploiting physical force. Although we are different from men, we will not reverse this trend unless we utilise the same principle. We have amazing inherent physical capabilities, as stories like this prove - we just need to learn how to use them, get our heads straight and we will turn things around in a very short space of time...
DeleteAbsolutely Agree with you Xaan. By the way there are great news about this. Don't know if I can tell, but seems that the brother knew about this blog. He started Bjj and seems he has the intention to ask a rematch next summer.
DeleteHe's gonna lose. Babis
DeleteHow can anyone be so sure? She might have had a fluke win, afterall he's older, bigger and more trained. I think he can turn the tables this time
DeleteThe brother lost badly when he was at the peak of his game while the sister was just a rookie. Now she is at hear peak, having trained hard for the last 15 years, while he didn't step on a tatami a single time in 15 years. She is going to nail the match for the 2nd time. By the way if Xaan agrees, we can make a little interview to him too, since he read the posts.
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