Interesting article on how women are closing the strength gap. More studies like this need to be carried out....
I had the pleasure of being the live stream broadcaster for a first-ever event this weekend (August 27th-28th); Strongman Corporation’s Strongest Woman in the World. After watching some of the most amazing female strength athletes on the planet, I began to ask myself, “Have we seen the limits to how strong these athletes can get? How close can they get to the strength of top male athletes, for instance?”
With 25 years of coaching experience and hundreds of books consumed on the subject of human athletics, I haven’t seen anyone attempt to answer that question when it comes to the relatively new sport of strongman.
From what I have seen, the average 180 lb Professional Strongwoman (who likely has a regular job and trains five days per week) will almost always out lift the average gym “bro” with a similar life schedule. I am certain of this because I have been training people in the gym for years, and most guys rarely break 405 in the deadlift — and I’ve seen these women pull it for sets of five. I believe we finally have an answer to the outdated question pondered by some male athletes with inflated egos: “You think a woman can beat me?”
Well, yes, yes I do. Especially the average Joe VS. a well conditioned machine.
You must examine the best athletes in their professional sports at their peak. And with more competitions and athletes than ever, we’re finally starting to see what female strongman competitors are capable of, though it’s likely just the tip of the iceberg.
When you look at a sport like running, women’s times fall short of men’s by just 10 percent in almost any event, whether it is sprint or endurance racing. Over the last decade of Strongman coaching I have noticed this same observational similarity. I regularly see male and female athletes of similar weight approaching similar reps and distances on the athletic events. In a purely strongman trademark event, Donna Moore (around 220 lbs) has the World Record stone of 327 lbs. This is 148% percent of her weight. Brian Shaw (around 430 lbs) only hits 125% of his weight with the 550 stone record.
Looking purely at the stone in an absolute manner, most 220 pound men are thrilled with a 327 pound load. This is interesting because I understand while many well trained men will argue that they can rep this stone, the pool of women training at this weight class is minuscule compared to the men (for now). If we increase the sample, what would happen? The best way is to look at men and women in the 180 pound category where there are many more competitors already. Head to head, many 180 pound women would keep pace of men at a similar ability level.
As more and more women gravitate to the sport, the opportunities for them to have better coaching, equipment, and access to prize money will expand their abilities to improve. Less than a decade ago, only 16 women competed in Strongman Nationals. The 2015 season had over 70 women at Nationals, with many more qualified.
In pondering this, something stood out to me as even more incredible than all the other performances at this amazing contest.
Strongman Corporation Professional Danielle Schwalbe cleaned and pressed a 175 pound strongman log 12 times in just sixty seconds. In a live interview I conducted with her immediately after the event, she was nonplussed and proclaimed that she could have done 24 if she had two minutes. This is (basically) bodyweight from ground to overhead unbroken, one rep every five seconds. She is an outlier — dare I say extreme to outside of the curve — and I’ve called her the best strongman presser for repetitions in the world. There are plenty of good pressers in the sport, so it’s a bold statement on my part. I don’t like to make unsubstantiated claims.
Naturally, this got me thinking about “Grace” (30 repetitions of clean & jerk for time with prescribed weight, 135 pounds for men and 95 pounds for women). How would she do? Would it be easy? Could she beat most competitive athletes (who practice) this workout?
So, I called her up and laid down the challenge. She immediately accepted, but only if she could use Men’s RX’d weight of 135 pounds. Her coach Matt Wattles and I had a brief discussion as to how this would affect her training, and his main concern was that she was rested enough from her victory in Jacksonville.
So this article is my statement of faith. In the next week, Dani will run “Grace” at 135 pounds for the first time ever, and BarBend will highlight the video on their website and social outlets.
I believe that the results will floor you.
I believe that she will be close to any Elite man that posts his time — and that she will beat quite a few.
I believe she will show what incredible strength strongwomen are capable of and how incredibly close they already are to the strength, speed, and endurance of male athletes.
And I believe athletes like Dani signal the beginning of a new era of women’s strength.
Thank you for posting this Xaan. Inspiring to see such clear proof of the amazing progress women are making in strength. Women will not just close the strength gap, but slam it shut and then open it wide again the other way, leaving males in the dust.
ReplyDeleteIt sure is a humiliating time to be male :)
DeleteThe future will be much more humiliating for men, unless they finally understand they can't take us on. As the article says, the question is outdated (I 've had the answer since 1998 anyway so I probably am not even supposed to care). Constantina
DeleteYes Nadia, very humbling to watch our ill-gained advantages slip away while women prove that we were so painfully wrong about the "superiority" of our male muscles.
DeleteNadia Black, you're so right! It's sure very humiliating time to be a male! Hard to face at first, but men have to admit that women's muscles are stronger and better. In comparison, male's muscles are useless. And becomes more and more obvious that males are the weak sex, in every ways.
DeleteWhat is humiliating is the way men grasp at straws and try to use the decaying patriarchal system portray an image of power that does not exist. All those straw men in Washington are scared to death of women ( doubly afraid of ethnic women) and are trying to hold back the tides of change with laws that only protect a few wealthy men.
DeleteMeanwhile women continue to excel in everything they do. Girls don't care about the old sexual stereotypes and are discovering what a lie it all was in the first place. Girls consistently beat boys on wrestling teams, out perform them in running, soccer, volleyball. I have no doubt that if they had a mind to, it would be easy for girl's football teams to be put together that would beat boys teams handily. What a blow to male ego it would be to see girls offensive lines mowing down the opposition, intercepting passes, outrunning the boys, kicking farther, tackling their biggest dude , and a girl quarterback who can throw with deadly accuracy. That would be humiliating for the lazy beer swilling males that do nothing but watch tv and yell at their too patient wives.
Your right Clarke and as you probably have read I’ve humiliated myself by being guilty of this too. I admit that as much as I admire them, I am scared to death of amazon women and the fact that do consistently beat us. I’m in a kind of awe especially of the amazons in the lfl, have you read the post on this blog? It is remarkable the facts and figures given, there is no doubt they are about to handily beat down men’s teams. Dan commented that comparing the power to weight ratios of lfl players to nfl players showed these amazons 7.5 compared to mens 5! They have already beaten men in flag football and Chicago bliss handed a beat down in practice to the bears development squad, Nneka Nwani of the Bliss sacked the bears QB 3 times! She’s a former Olympic discus player 6ft and nearly 200lbs this is a photo of her, pure amazon!
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Her teammate Britany Wilson another 6ft almost 200lber totally slammed out a man giving him concussion
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If you took the biggest baddest amazons in the lfl and put them as a team in nfl, say included center Dina Wojowski another 6ft near 200lber considered to be the most physical offensive player in the lfl
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well as you say I think they would mow down the opposition and hold the superbowl championship for a very long time! Just by looking at their photos you get a real feel of their raw indomitable female physical power man beaters, man killers waiting to be unleashed! Paul
Paul, that's a great picture of Dina Wojowski. The power of that amazing female body is all too obvious. Knowing what we know about the greater efficiency and power of female muscles and superior nervous system, it's not too hard to imagine her simply knocking down male opponents like bowling pins and outrunning them to the goal line. Hard to believe we once thought of women as "the weaker sex."
DeleteClark ... I love your description of the overpowering progress of girls in athletic events demolishing the boys. The male ego is certainly taking a beating these days and it doesn't look like the stronger sex will ease up any time soon. As the structure of patriarchy collapses, the wrecking ball of female superiority will continue to smash every male bastion in its path.
Thanks for the photo links, Paul. What a football team those Women would be ! If you put Nneka in shoulderpads and uniform she would be more imposing than any big bloated male. The message it would send to the world as they won the Super Bowl would change the culture swiftly. Girls by the thousands would be joining school football teams, replacing most of the boys. The few boys that still qualified would not last long in actual games as the girls revel in their freedom and gleefully tackle them. It won't take long for girls to take over most sports, leaving boys to band together as 'powder puff' type teams. Other boys may decide to be cheerleaders, and compete to date the girl football quarterback.
DeleteWomen who have realized their strength will change the nature of the family. Men will ultimately take the wife's name, and enjoy being carried over the threshhold by his strong bride. As men adapt to the reality of Female strength, they will join with Women in realizing it is nature correcting years of patriarchy and restoring the world to it's proper balance.
Fantastic photo links! I agree with you all whole heartedly! Like xaan says in the original lfl post what started out as a joke an exercise in laughing at and the exploiting of women has backfired and become an exercise in the empowerment of women. Look how they have evolved, this is the original lingerie bowl team ‘Euphoria’ who played for titillation in half time at the 2004 superbowl
Deletehttps://avideogamelife.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/lingeriebowl2004aqngauku1dxl.jpg models between 45 and 50 kg who have never been given the opportunity to play sports in their life.
This is what the lfl look like now
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31150356_10156282728302103_8141272060467871744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1d7dacc0d993f3c58f3ddf2128fce7dc&oe=5B52E8E0 And I’ll leave this with you also to compare,
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7577/15846978430_1f67489cf4_b.jpg ...No longer a joke! the lfl is no longer a novelty act played by women who are barely more than strippers. The reality is fast approaching that the men in the NFL will soon hardly stand a chance against the likes of these developing amazon athletes, vic
The male teams will naturally do everything possible to avoid any direct confrontation with the new Female teams. They know by now that it would not end well for the men.
DeleteFurther I predict a scenario like this is extremely likely to occur in the near future! : the LFL gets bought out and owned by a high powered wealthy woman such as Melanie Trump, maybe ironically as a present from misogynist Donald who sees the profits but still thinks its bimbos in bikinis. But Melanie further invests similar monies into the development and training of the women as the men get.
DeleteNFL directors, self-proclaimed male chauvinists, resentful that the LFL is the fastest growing sports franchise with its continued growth of crowd numbers and tv viewings for the LFL see it as a threat to the NFL. In an attempt to discredit the LFL and also to squash the growing undercurrent of amazon feminist discourse they uttered a challenge mixed with a tirade of sexist insults, the NFL superbowl champions will beat the LFL, they argued, because they’re women and they are weak and need to prove that a woman's place is in the kitchen and the bedroom. After this prodding and provocation, the LFL feeling they had a point to prove accepted the challenge
The NFL further hyped the contest in a media blitz with a new slew of misogyny comments, including relasing a poster showing a LFL player with a black eye and the the slogan get your game face on https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/2061306/images/n-GET-YOUR-GAME-FACE-ON-628x314.jpg and announcing in the team, with full backing to put the girls in their place, a controversial full back who had pleaded guilty to multiple charges of domestic violence against women over the years. The LFL on the other hand continued their season selecting their biggest best women and invested heavily in getting them the best training, equipment and in smart materials technology for the fabric and science of their uniforms.
As the day of the match got closer there were genuine apprehensions for the safety of the women due to the rhetoric of the NFL and size disparage between the biggest strongest most aggressive male athletes in the world and the LFL girls. For the first time the LFL however issued a warning to the men “The Lingerie Football Leagues brag employs some of the toughest, most badass women in the world we are training the selected women hard, they are a mix of our finest amazons between the age of 19 and 39 of an average size and weight 5’10 200lbs, each one of them is lifting the equivalent of a 350lbs man above their head for many reps in the gym, they are thirsty for blood, on the match day we will spray tans ten shades of hell out of them ;) and let them go HAM on the NFL.” Unfortunately for the NFL team they and their bosses were dismissive in their over confidence. “The LFL should be extremely concerned about the safety of their athletes our get you game face on slogan and poster to them is no joke. You're never going to have a 210-pound man as an offensive tackle in the NFL. Let alone a 200 lb woman. Our players tip the scales at 330 lbs on average. Big people beat up little people, these bimbos are going to hospital" The LFL left their reply simple, “big men may beat up little men, but we are women, the NFL are in for a surprise”
Part one of prediction of future event in football by Vic :)
One hour until show time, and the LFL lockerroom is packed with girls who are running around in skimpy clothing and working through a steady mist of hairspray, bottles of lotion, nail polish, rounded hairbrushes and eye shadow, we now get to see a perfect vision of modern day Amazonian culture. Tough, strong, athletic women - not afraid to show off their impressive feminine physiques about to engage in physical battle against the strongest men on the planet but looking and acting like girls getting ready for their prom night. It can easily be mistaken for the backstage area for beauty pageant contestants.
Deletehttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/bc/48/08bc486b329b42788067f2b5f472cad3.jpg https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000cUFyIFhAKJk/fit=1000x750/LFL05.jpg “Can someone see if my eyes are even on both sides?” asks one, talking to nobody in particular.
“My hair is just not agreeing with me today!”
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In a far corner, two women pirouette like ballerinas while a thick layer of tanning spray is applied to their exposed legs. A bottle of perfume is passed around “This is the secret,” one says, spritzing her neck and wrists. “Gotta feel pretty before we get ugly.” Once dolled up, T it’s time. Purses are stowed and they congregate by the door and the captain gives her team a pep talk
“Girls,” she says, her eyes glowering. “we’re walking out there to our place of business. This is our gridiron, not those sexist jerks. What type of team do you want to be tonight? What message do you want to send? It will set us back 50 years if we don’t win this match, not only will it ruin the LFL it will affect all women’s self-esteem. All of you here can bench-press over four hundred pounds. In size and strength we exceed most male strength athletes, and whilst these men do have a size advantage they do not have the strength skill or ability of us. Let us show them what results from the choice of women to become muscular and physically powerful. Let us dispell the myth that women are inherently weak. The female athlete is a living monument to the limitless possibilities of the human body. Step out onto this field with the right mentality. Be precise, be exact, be fierce, be malicious and,” she says, letting out a little grin, “be classy.”
Be classy is at once an inside joke and their rallying cry. The girls, who just a few moments earlier could have been mistaken as scatty bimbos, begin stomping, hooting, hollering and rumbling. Their energy crescendos as they walk out ready for battle. Suddenly they are an impressive sight to behold - The muscular body of a highly trained female athlete with all of her attendant feminine attributes in control, confident and empowered in their physicality and uniform. Intimidating with an air of invulnerability they look resolute as they enter the tunnel ahead of the NFL in their football pads and eyeliner and garments that — depending who you ask — may or may not be lingerie. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F62Bm1d2Z-w/maxresdefault.jpg
“Turn around, bitches!” The men are screaming at the girls. They would like them to turn around. They play football for the NFL, the superbowl champions.” They are standing in the tunnel right next to their LFL opponents. It’s the night of the match. Tensions are running high.
“You scared?” the NFL players yell. “We the baddest men in the planet, bitches!”
The LFL are not scared. They are highly trained female athletes. They remain stone-faced and front-facing for several minutes, hands over hearts in a a powerful resolute stance https://media.tmz.com/2017/09/27/0927-lfl-national-anthem-3.jpg but one can’t help herself. She turns around. She smiles as a challenge to her opponents. This does not go over well. The men are starting to feel uneasy that the girls are showing no fear
“Fuck you, bitch!” a NFL player screams perhaps an edge of panic in his voice. “Fuck your girly ass! I’m putting you on the ground all night! All fucking night!”
Vic
The lights have dimmed. Machine-generated smoke rises from the field. The public address announcer screams his introductions. And here, finally, the LFL players scream too.
Delete“Girl power!” one of them yells. Through the smoke, out into the arena, in front of the crowd of cheering they appear. Looking every part the amazons of myth http://www.viralthread.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/4113.jpg
The precedent for the match was set within seconds of the game starting with a girl in ‘lingerie’ who when you saw her putting on her makeup you would never think has a ferocious side to her, drove a 315 lbs NFL player nearly 10 yards back, directly into the lap of his quarter back, before bringing them both stylishly and devastatingly to the ground in style with a single hand. https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7103/7302323468_3f3c2db819_b.jpg
That afternoon the NFL were pounded into a fine pulp by the girls of the LFL it was the largest ever blowout seen in football history. https://www.lfl360.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/carmen-bourseau.jpg The NFL men never even advanced the ball beyond their own 40-yard line and we saw the LFL girls score touchdowns on 10 of their first 11 possessions, http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alli+Alberts+Chicago+Bliss+v+Las+Vegas+Sin+tEXH-m32CuZl.jpg While professional football is and will probably always be a violent sport, in their massacre of best team in the NFL, the LFL girls took the sport to another scary level of ferociousness with one commentator describing it as "the most brutal football game I've ever watched." So brutal was the female onslaught that the NFL coach was seen covering his face with his hands and heard muttering “oh please show mercy” If any in the LFL heard that plead it fell on deaf ears. Few observers predicted the demolition that awaited the no1 NFL team in the nation, and though extra paramedics had been brought in for fear of the women’s safety ironically it was the men that needed them. Notable scalps for the women included their aptitude for smothering any attempts at offence initiated by their Hall of Fame quarterback leading to him being sacked 7 times, picked him off twice and knocked out of the game with a concussion late in the second quarter. But it was the controversial domestic violence perpetrator that got the worst of it, targeted by the LFL players from the outset, the girls consistently buffeted him across the gridiron like a puppet on a string throughout the match, slowly turning him into a bloodied bruised mess http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/586/249/hi-res-182351494-watt-of-the-houston-texans-comes-off-the-field-after_crop_north.jpg?1383219479&w=630&h=420, cameras showing him with a broken nose wincing on the sideline, the play-by-play man thought his finishing injury was a badly "bruised back." His actual diagnosis - a lacerated kidney. He is still in hospital where he is expected to remain for the next two weeks. The LFL player most prominent in dishing his beat downs and rough house girl handling during the match was heard to quip "how does it feel being beat up by a girl for once." https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/78/1d/2c781db2ebf10822eaa9c5565f6d4db7.jpg
As they had predicted the pretty amazons had got ugly. Ugly enough that the NFL considered playing their punter at quarterback Ugly enough that the punter refused. Ugly enough that nine NFL players were stretchered from the game with injuries, https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1i1hgyjsnY/maxresdefault.jpg All hope expectations and visions of a female rout had long stopped dancing in the NFL supporters heads. The girls were having a ball. As they inflicted carnage upon the NFL, a LFL player reacted to one of those injured NFL men, http://www.blitzmagazine.it/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/f89db140-b745-11e7-bdae-67685f55c2a0_aaronrodgers102217.jpg "Do you guys need any more body bags?" She roared http://d13beo3f7vpmvd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/gallery/lfl-top-10/lflstefanieschenken3.jpg
Vic
By the end of the game the final score was a historic record breaking LFL 106 NFL 0, establishing women as the dominant force in American football and smashing the reputation of the NFL into tatters. The joy amongst the women libbers in the crowd was apparent as they erupted in fiendish delight joining in with the players stomping, hooting, hollering and rumbling. And while the men looked beaten bruised and vulnerable not one LFL player had a hair out of place. The glee of the female anchor, Alison, who interviewed the victors on the touchline was clear to see https://i.huffpost.com/gen/367329/ANGELA-RYPIEN-LINGERIE-FOOTBALL-LEAGUE.jpg
DeleteALYSON: Congratulations on your epic victory. You looked like you having fun out there. The LFL ladies made a brutal statement here tonight
LFL: Yes that was fun. The NFL did not give us proper respect. We showed those men girls are best. You look at all these men in the NFL. None of them match us. We girls are the best pure athletes in the world. Stronger, faster, technically sound, capable of any play we pleased. We loved beating the men.
For his part, The NFL’s captain was gracious in defeat telling reporters that the girls simply “played too well”, saying “they were too good, too fast. and made great plays for which we had no answer" Unfortunately the NFL board of control are not so forthcoming, claiming the technological developments on the sports bras the girls wear amount to foul play are taking legal action to nullify the LFL victory in what has become known as the “boobs vs brawn” controversy. The rules governing the use of technology on sports states that equipment must not “enhance performance beyond the natural physical ability of the athlete”. This means that externally powered sources and large springs are prohibited. The NFL claims that while sports bras are being designed to improve daily performance and training of women, the impact of many of the advances in sports bra technology, commissioned by the LFL, on the ability of women are at odds with the rulings of sports governing bodies. They say the ‘spring loading’ effect they enable from a women’s breast is akin to a boxer having a horse shoe in his glove
More to come if people are interested, the bit about the sports bra comes from a conversation I overheard between the females in my dojo talking about the difference they make in improving performance and comfort in martial arts and sports activities > they reckon that the right sports bra can make you run faster throw further and punch harder. I would be interested if the ‘boobs’ are another physical advantage over men if supported correctly, you don’t really hear much talk of it and I know as a man perhaps it is not my place to ask such questions, but there is nothing in the women’s technical advantage post. I read online that the LFL have started using a brand of sports bra called champion and are actually researching sports performance effects of bras, which leads to think if they make that much difference could it be described as fair? I know my opinions which I will express in a post game inetriew prediction if anyone wants. Feedback positive or negative appreciated Vic
Wow ... that's quite an event. The game was over for the men right from the start. Of course, in reality things would have gone very differently. It would have been much worse for the males! :)
DeleteKnowing how sexist Donald Trump is, I think he 'd keep the LFL for himself as some sort of toy if he bought it - this means no part of your story is going to happen, Vic. There are much more realistic stories to happen in regard of proving our superior talents. Though I am not sure you 'd be interested in a story without an over-the-top pompous pre-match announcement from the female side. Sure the men's propaganda is much more pompous, but our side could still wait up to the last moment and then just say "Enough talk, time 's up". Showing them how it is to be on the dismissed side would either make them too angry to think clearly or scare them to death. It would be a win-win. But all of it would be forgotten as soon as the match started, regardless of sport (I 'd prefer almost anything instead of "American football"). Here is a matchup suggestion:
DeleteMen's side: Real club de Madrid
Women's side: Lazio (not from FIFA's leagues)
We all know what hype there is around Real de Madrid. They have Cristiano Ronaldo, said by many to be the best player in history. They have won the last two UEFA Champions' League trophies and are aiming to make them three in a row - as long as they manage to hold on that 1-2 victory in Munich, that is.
The women's professional team of Lazio is not so well known, but this season they did something that could make some people bat an eye: they finished their season without scoring or conceding any goals, save for the penalty shootout in the cup's first round, which they lost 0-2 to a 4th-division team.
Believe it or not, Lazio would win this. They 'd erase Cristiano from the field and take advantage of the gaps Zidane's superstars never cover. Not the best women, still capable of beating the (supposed) best men.
Hi!
DeleteI have a few questions about the LFL vs NFL game;
1) Is a 7 vs 7 or 11 vs 11 or 7 vs 11 match?
2) What would be the most likely results for the three types of games?
Can the NFL team win the game in a 7 vs. 11? The men's team is favored by the number of players in the field, I suppose.
3) Another context to compare the strength of the NFL teams Vs LFL teams would be playing a full season:
How would the NFL team behave in a LFL championship?
How would the LFL team behave in a NFL championship?
What will the statistics after the championship say about:
- Victory percentage
- TD & tackle (executed / suffered)
- Fumble & injuries
- Earnings in yards (run / pass)
- Final score (on average)
In your opinion what are your considerations about it?
(sorry for incorrect English) :-)
I 've done a simulation that might interest you. I chose wrestlers available in WWE 2K18 and put them in two teams in Pro Evolution 2018 (one team per gender). I put both teams in LaLiga, taking out the relatively weak teams of Girona and Leganes. Then I started a new Master League save, taking control of the women's team and playing on Superstar difficulty. These are all my results in LaLiga:
DeleteWWE Divas-Club Atletico de Madrid 0-0
WWE Divas-Malaga 0-0
Athletic Bilbao-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Sevilla 0-0
WWE Men-WWE Divas 1-1 (35' Lex Luger-71' Maryse)
WWE Divas-Barcelona 1-0 (70' Summer Rae)
Celta-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Villarreal 1-0 (26' Paige)
Depor-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Real club de Madrid 1-0 (90'+2 Maryse)
Levante-WWE Divas 0-1 (65' Maryse)
WWE Divas-Real Sociedad 0-0
Betis-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Alaves 1-0 (35' Paige)
Espanyol-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Getafe 0-0
Eibar-WWE Divas 0-1 (76' Summer Rae)
Valencia-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Las Palmas 0-0
Club Atletico de Madrid-WWE Divas 0-1 (82' Summer Rae)
Malaga-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Athletic Bilbao 1-0 (29' Paige)
Sevilla-WWE Divas 2-0 (18', 49' Ben Yedder)
WWE Divas-WWE Men 0-0
Barcelona-WWE Divas 2-0 (7' Messi, 15' Paulinho)
WWE Divas-Celta 1-0 (45'+2 Summer Rae)
Villarreal-WWE Divas 2-0 (65', 82' Carlos Bacca)
WWE Divas-Depor 0-0
Real club de Madrid-WWE Divas 0-1 (9' Paige)
WWE Divas-Levante 1-0 (36' Brie Bella)
Real Sociedad-WWE Divas 1-0 (57' Willian Jose)
WWE Divas-Betis 1-0 (41' Summer Rae)
Alaves-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Espanyol 0-0
Getafe-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Eibar 1-0 (90'+3 Maryse)
WWE Divas-Valencia 0-1 (23' Parejo)
Las Palmas-WWE Divas 0-0
Total: 13 wins, 20 draws, 5 losses (59 points)
Goals: 14 scored, 9 conceded (+5 difference)
As a result, my team finished 7th in LaLiga and won a Europa League ticket. The Champions' League tickets were won by Barcelona (93pts), WWE Men (89pts), Real club de Madrid (87pts) and Club Atletico de Madrid (75pts). Sevilla (72pts), Valencia (65pts) and Betis (57pts) won the other Europa League tickets.
In the cup, I started from round 2. These are all the results I got:
WWE Divas-Alaves 0-0
Alaves-WWE Divas 0-1 (89' Maryse)
WWE Divas-Eibar 1-0 (43' Summer Rae)
Eibar-WWE Divas 0-0
Real club de Madrid-WWE Divas 0-1 (13' Paige)
WWE Divas-Real club de Madrid 1-1 after extra time (104' Summer Rae-36' Cristiano Ronaldo)
Barcelona-WWE Divas 0-0
WWE Divas-Barcelona 4-2 penalties
Final: WWE Divas-WWE Men 1-2 (40' Stephanie McMahon-55' Ultimate Warrior, 76' R-Truth)
These results don't look as good as expected, but do not forget the difficulty level I played on. For the next save I will take control of the men's team and cancel out any difference made by the level.
Perhaps an LFL vs NFL match requires a main article.
DeleteIt could explain the feminine advantages both tactical and physical that favor women in American football.
In addition, a women's victory in a men's sport could be very educational for those who do not believe that American football is a female sport like all other types of sport.
I started the save for which I control the WWE men's team and faced the Divas for matchday 8. The match was at home for the WWE Men's team, but the Divas scored 6 goals and made it look very easy, although I tried my best at playing carefully. Especially Maryse on their left was constantly embarrassing her personal opponent either by vastly outrunning him or by making him dizzy with her quick slaloms and dribbles, but it was the Divas' entire team performance that really gave them the match. Together with Maryse at the left, Summer in the middle and Paige at the right work clock as their team's striking line. All three of them are fast and can rally the ball around at insane speeds to make the opponents' defensive duties practically impossible. I think nothing will stop them from winning the title.
DeleteI just ended the season with the WWE Men's team under my control and they barely avoided relegation. The WWE Divas won the league AND the cup, getting clean sheets in all their matches. The top scorer's title went to Maryse (42 goals), followed by Summer Rae (38 goals) and Paige (35 goals). Lionel Messi was the top male scorer, stopping at 28 goals, Cristiano Ronaldo was next with 26 goals and Lex Luthor of the WWE Men's team scored 25. The problem of the WWE Men's team was the defence, which mostly showed in the four matches against the Divas (two in the league and two in the cup). In these four matches only, the WWE Men conceded a total of 26 goals. The Divas under my control and on the same level of difficulty conceded less than half those goals through the entire season. They scored a lot less goals as well, but they made them count for points. The Divas are a stronger, smarter, better team than the men.
DeleteAnonymous 9/5/18, you probably should have written Lex Luger instead of Lex Luthor. Interesting test, anyhow. Thanks for sharing. Elise
DeleteOh sorry, my bad. Thank you for correcting me, Elise. Lex Luthor is from Injustice: Gods among us, another wood game I have for my PlayStation.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF-YeWnIJfU
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http://dailym.ai/2Amnkj3
ReplyDeleteWow she is huge, a modern amazon. Males should be worried women like this can build a physique that makes males obsolete.
Males are already obsolete, it's just a matter of time before everyone realizes it.
DeleteNot as huge, but much more efficient:
Deletehttps://www.instagram.com/p/BbDV2ToB8mk/
Very cool. She totally blows away the boy, like a Ferrari racing against the family sedan!
DeleteYes, but that particular Ferrari would have to be very discrete, very elegant, whereas that particular family sedan would have to be very flashy and ugly. The point is that the girl looks so much down-to-earth, unlike that "modern amazon" of the earlier post.
DeleteWell, of course the female is always more elegant than the male. I agree that the young woman in the video ( https://www.instagram.com/p/BbDV2ToB8mk/ ) does seem more "discrete" than some of the Amazon depictions on this blog, But it just goes to show the simple reality of female power does not depend on costume, but comes from within. The boy, who is obviously in good shape, could not keep up with her and not only did she outperform him, he didn't even finish the match as he was not doubt exhausted, his bulky inefficient male muscles just wimped out! The sedan just ran out of gas at the side of the road and had to wait for the tow truck! As always, girlppwer prevails!
DeleteA powerful engine hardly working is more economical than a weak engine working hard. Similarly to this, an efficient muscle hardly working is more economical than a size-reliant muscle working hard. Constantina
DeleteConstantina, that's a great way to look at it. Of course we know who has the more powerful, highly advanced and better constructed engine! Maybe smaller, but clearly more concentrated and durable!
DeleteNot only smaller. More importantly, women's muscles tend to be more discrete. Muscles hidden under a "soft look" are in most cases hidden under necessary body fluids, rather than fat. Having an optimal quantity of these fluids benefits strength, stamina and all that goes with these two. I won't pretend to know why, but men seem unable to keep enough of those vital fluids. Hopefully someone else in this blog knows more details on this specific subject (Ace maybe?). Constantina
DeleteOf course you are right, Constantina. Ace's amazing "becoming stronger than men" in the "Women's Technical Advantages" post includes some of that information. I've done some reading on this subject myself and have read that contrary to the common belief that men's excess of testosterone actually has a number of damaging effects on muscle performance, for instance, male muscles can have restricted blood flow just when they are at their maximum exertion, which significantly cuts down on their power in proportion to their size, and makes them less resilient. Women have much more growth hormone and estrogen which protects their muscles under extreme loads and aids in blood flow. Women's nervous systems are also much more efficient which causes much more of female muscle to be active. Women's muscles have the protective layers of fluid and beneficial fats (not all fat is "bad") which create a smoother look which, as you say, hide their very powerful muscles. Men are used to thinking that the highly defined musculature of the male is automatically stronger ... nothing could be further from the truth. It would be great to hear more from Ace ... she has dome much more research and has a lot to teach us.
DeleteSometimes in surprises me how wide the strength gap is and how feeble mens muscles are, i arm wrestled a 6ft 4 mens physique bodybuilder, he was working as a butler in the buff at the same club as me, it was almost ridiculous how easily i kicked his arse and how scared of me he was after. i enjoyed it of course ;) Polegirl
Deletefrom what i can work out, it improves the electrical connectivity meaning greater neuron efficiency, lubricates the muscle so that they contract significantly faster i.e. with greater force and power, plus they provide a prtective coating for the muscles so they are more resilient to impact which is why girls are sooo much better at rough and tumble full contact sorts such as american football and wrestling - you smash into a buff female likelihood is you will bounce off her, smash into a man and he will break!! This why a significant number of guys get stretchered off in wrestling matches against girls and why lfl v nfl will result in men mangled!! Dan the man
DeletePolegirl, you certainly should be proud of your feminine strength. and knowing that as a woman, your muscles are stronger than a larger man's. I think it's especially true for the kind of muscles that "physique" men have, because they are more concerned about how their muscles look than strength. Their bodybuilding techniques create large defined muscles, but they are for show ... puffed up but soft. I understand that women who pole dance develop muscles that males may not even have! It would be great to know more about your encounter with this "butler in the buff"
DeleteNobody in this blog has explained why men seem unable to keep the right levels of necessary body fluids. I just reckon Ace can explain this for us because she has explained so many other things about the human body. This specific observation about the ability to keep the right level of fluids might even be wrong anyway, although my observations about being able to easily beat any man are undoubtable. I am completely irrelevant to scientific knowledge, all I know is that men are very easy to defeat in Muay Thai. Constantina
DeleteConstantina, I'd also love to hear from Ace. She hasn't seemed to post lately, and she is missed because she has great knowledge of female physiological superiority.
DeleteOne thing I do know is that contrary to the common belief, male hormone levels are actually much more variable than females. Testosterone surges can be quite erratic and result in males being much less consistent and predictable than females behaviorally and in terms of athletic performance. The erratic nature of males can often lead to an advantage for women against them in competition because a woman can present a steady consistent attack and a male will be very confused by her grace, speed and strength, his muscles will respond too slowly to offer adequate defense.
Maybe Ace (or another knowledgable woman) could comment on this?
I can confirm your observation about men's unstable behaviour, with absolutely no doubts. It does suggest that men might have hormonal instability, but just to suggest something isn't the same as to prove it beyond doubt. I don't know what actually happens with hormone stability, I am just trying to find out and I think I have nothing better to do than ask someone with deep knowledge of the human body (Ace is definitely a good example because she has explained so many other things regarding the human body - I actually think it is very strange that she hasn't explained this fundamental fact yet). The difference in behavioural stability in favour of my gender is very obvious and this may drive most people away from trying to find out why it is so, but I am strange and want to know all the truth behind this fact. Plus there is something more. My original question on this thread was (and still is) about the levels of vital fluids in general. I want to know why the average man looks so "dehydrated" and whether this is really caused by actual dehydration. Constantina
DeleteIf I may, I think the "dehydrated" look you are referring to in males may be the absence of the protective layers which women have and males don't. The typical description of this may say the women have "extra" layers below the skin. These layers consist of fluids and some fat which has nourishing properties and contributes to female endurance and flexibility. They are not "extra" at all, but the normal healthy fluid layers. In other words, women's bodies are structured in a normal healthy way. The male body is deficient in these essential fluids and so their muscles are not shielded which creates the look of abnormally exposed muscles typical of males. Men think because their muscles are more exposed that they must be stronger ... another typical male myth. As a male I have been very interested in understanding my own naturally inferior condition, so I have done a bit of research as well.
DeleteI just clicked on the link posted by JoeM and was totally impressed by the big strong amazon that was behind that link. She is so much bigger and stronger than most men and still looks incredible.
Delete"The male body is deficient in these essential fluids" but we still don't know why. Elise
DeleteI suppose it will be Female biologists who will get to the real roots of male inferiority, which we males are afraid to fully understand. It's no surprise that the field of biological is now being taken over by Women as males shy away from more and more findings of Female superiority in so many ways.
DeleteAre you sure female biologists are fully aware of the strength they 're meant to have? In my own experience at least, university kids are weaker than other humans of the same gender. Elise
DeleteFemale biologists may not be physical athletes, but they are in a sense athletes of research. It was Nettie Stevens who revealed the existence of the y chromosome when male scientists were still trying to find ways to use genetic research to prove males were superior. Instead, female researchers were not afraid to show how just the reverse was true. If it were not for them it would have been likely that the truth would be hidden today. As it is male interest in science has moved away from biology since most males do not want to participate in the unraveling of the claims of male biological superiority, which is inevitable.
DeleteIs there a direct connection between the y chromosome and the larger dehydration tendency of men? Elise
DeleteElise, I believe the SRy gene on the y chromosome is primarily responsible for triggering male development and flipping switches in the genome that result in the extreme production of testosterone. It's primarily the excess testosterone in males that cause the typical dried-out male physiology.
DeleteDoes testosterone directly speed up dehydration, or is it just the overinflated male muscles being in need of more fluid than they should? Of course I know muscle overinflation is caused by testosterone and either excessive training or a physically hard life, but I want to know all the details on why we look gorgeous and men hideous. Elise
DeleteWe know that a percentage of overinflated male muscle is basically useless tissue which does not really function for strength. Since Female muscle is more compact and more efficient, perhaps that also enhances feminine gorgeousness while the proliferation of "filler" tissue detracts from male appearance. Of course men themselves are usually blind to this deficit and pretend that their clumsy bloated muscle's appearance is a good thing.
DeleteAlso, I think that there's an evolutionary reason for the superior beauty of Women. Since Women are in fact the primary sex, the Female body is basically the epitome of human potential, the male is an accessory and the result of a reprogramming of the original Female form into something intended to provide a supportive function. Along with this reprogramming of the genome goes a number of undesirable but apparently unavoidable side effects, such as the hideous appearance You speak of. As long as a man can make himself "useful" to Women, he is fulfilling his natural role, his physical appearance reflects his inferior function.
That is a good answer... to the statement I make after the question. I want to know exactly how testosterone drops fluid levels enough to create those hideous male looks. If there are more than one ways, I want to know all of them separately. And in all cases I want full detail. Unserious talk is pointless. Elise
DeleteElise, I apologise, but I don't know if I can answer with more detail as I don't think the specifics are really available to the public. We can only base our opinions on what is available. I certainly agree about the comparative hideousness of male physiology. It's clear that it's all bundled together with the many flawed characteristics of the male. Perhaps the real explanations will become available as more Women do such research and are not as concerned about pandering to male egos as male scientists have been.
DeleteHow long has biology been female-dominated? Research takes time, I know, but the delay has started to seem largely excessive. I would certainly appreciate a more timely manner. Absolutely no point in cuddling fragile egos, let's just reveal the truth exactly as it is and finish once and for all with the fairytales of Halima about "natural male strength". Elise
DeleteWomen have been in the majority of biology students for a little more than a decade, I think. The numbers are increasing but it has indeed taken time to turn things around. Still a lot of progress has been made to reveal the truth about Female biological superiority. At least there are people studying it who no longer buy into the old myth of male superiority and can see it for the laughable fiction it is.
DeleteThe fact that males are now recognized by science to be biological variants of the essential Female structure is progress. The Female body is undeniably superior to the male and biological research only strengthens this.
I am not denying or disregarding the progress already made, just saying there is more to do. Elise
DeleteIndeed Elise, the many tasks remaining in completely disintegrating patriarchy is testament to how much men have fucked things up and how much an obstacle our collective inability to accept the reality of our inferiority is.
DeleteMen fucked things up a lot because of having a lot of time for doing so. Millennia, to be exact. Elise
DeleteAny way I can contact you ?. Your contact part seems rubbed out on your blogger page. Would just like to talk about the subject matter, love your artwork and find it great a female thinks about stuff like this.
ReplyDeleteRespect is best taught to kids of early age. A grown man most likely finds a lot of difficulty in understanding how absurd a lie he believed in. Let alone the difficulty in admitting the fact to himself.
ReplyDeleteGnome, totally agree. There is still resistance to equality in physical activity for girls in the general population. Perhaps since academe is now on the way to being inexorably dominated by women, the wisdom of athletic training for girls to achieve their full potential will be more emphasized. After all, it's colleges where much of the policy of athletic curriculum is decided. Even now I know I can see that boys are not nearly as certain of being able to physically overpower a girl as they once were. Of course self defense classes also help.
ReplyDeleteThe end of the article says that "next week, Dani will run 'Grace' at 135 pounds, for the first time ever".
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody know if she already did that workout and if she already beated a lot of men?
Here's a link to the article about that event: https://barbend.com/future-womens-strength-sports-dani-schwalbe/ ...
DeleteInterestingly, the interviewer never asks Dani what she thinks about the relative strengths of males and Females, but he does ask her coach, Matt, who does not seem to be on board regarding the greater potential power of Women over men ... he says:
... "As far as males and females, I’ve seen numbers in the research indicating women have the potential to have about of 2/3 strength levels of men. Using some simple calculations, if men are hitting 500 lbs log presses, I think the potential is there for a female to hit a 300 – 330 lb log press at some point. Russian powerlifter Kirill Sarychev has hit a raw 739, which would tell me there may be a female at some point out there capable of a 490 bench press. I would imagine the same would apply for other lifts as well." ...
Makes you wonder if Dani might not benefit more from a Female coach. Is it possible that her male coach might actually need some proper education about Women's potential? Too bad they chose not to include Dani's own thoughts on the subject.
THAT is how the media work, yboy. No wonder more and more people (at least in the civilised part of the world) don't trust them. Constantina
Deletethanks yboy for the link. She is so strong. And I think you might be right. A female coach might be better for her.
DeleteShe is indeed amazing ... one of a new breed of women.
DeleteAs well intentioned as her male coach might be, one cannot rule out the fact that all males innately fear the possibility of women reaching their potential, especially when it comes to physical strength, and may even unwittingly hold her back in spite of the massive gains she is clearly making. It reminds me of a study that was done among office workers which showed that the most motivated groups were when women were managing other women and the lowest levels were among males managing males. Male workers with female managers were actually more productive than with male managers ... female workers with male managers were actually more productive than either of the previous combinations, but when males were taken out of the equation, the women's levels just jumped to new levels.
There are likely strength enhancing practices and techniques which women can share that males may not be equipped as instructors.
See social manipulation, taking my link and reposting it as an insult to men! Proud meninist
ReplyDeleteMr Proud Meninist, social manipulation is what patriarchy has been using against us. And your choice to post a link that goes against your beliefs is not something to blame us for.
ReplyDeleteGirls are not as constrained by society anymore and are taking over so quickly my head spin no. My 16 year old niece is a shot putter, softball catcher. Soccer player, and is blind to the myth that boys are stronger. On three occasions she has noticed me struggle lifting furniture or a heavy bag and stepped in, calmly taking over with ease. I have had a lot of experience with meeting athletic women, including female bodybuilders. Lots to tell, but the reality is that so called normal Women are stronger and more capable than men.i am in awe of Female superiority.
ReplyDeleteI agree Clark. A lot of male heads will be spinning these days as the advancement of Females continues at an accelerated pace. Men could never have been prepared for the rapid reversal of their ill-concieved patriarchy. Some of us have accepted the reality, but some are still fighting it, in spite of the hopelessness of mere males standing against the Female tide, now that Womankind has finally re-learned Their real power!
DeleteThis male would rather stand with the New Amazons than make excuses for the outmoded males who would whine about our defeat. Our defeat was inevitable.
I'm with you yboy. I learned early on that girls were smarter, stronger , and clearly more together than boys. I found myself embarrassed several times losing arm wrestling matches in school. It took me a while to realize that it wasnt anything to be ashamed about. All of the comments were from guys who were really fearful and glad it wasn't them being defeated. The fear that boys still have of strong girls is so self defeating. As girls assert themselves and are recognized as the norm, perhaps guys won't feel so humiliated. I did have a secret fantasy that the girls would take over the football team, and that I would be a cheerleader dating the quarterback.
DeleteWhen womens bodybuilding became widespread I was elated. Finally women were smashing the last bastion of male ego. I wasn't surprised that women could be so muscular, just wondered what took so long.
I became very involved with meeting female bodybuilders for private sessions. The greatest joy was to get to meet and talk with them without any society pressures. I could totally be myself and express my admiration and acknowledgement of their strength and superiority. It was often almost g rated in the sense that I was there not to use or expect sexual favors. It was awesome watching a fbb flex and allowed to feel her biceps etc.
That is an extreme of course. I realize that all women are naturally powerful even if they don't lift weights. Recently I was trying to change a huge water jug at work, and had a hard time turning it over and setting it in the cooler. A women much smaller than me said excuse me, and easily hoisted it for me. She said she does it all the time. Don't get me started on all the memories I have of women being stronger than men. It really is the natural order for Women to be the stronger sex, and the world will be a better place as men learn to accept the reality.
Everyone needs to accept reality, not only men. Sure it tends to be harder for men, but some women also refuse the idea of being stronger than men, most often because they think they 'll get "inflated" like men - which is provably false. I myself am neither toned nor big (unless you think giants are 1,74m/57Kg...), but I can easily overpower men of sizes such as 2,05m/156Kg whose muscles can easily be marketed as "strong". But whether marketing is honest or not is another story, on which I won't expand right now - excuse me. Elise
DeleteI guess what you are saying is marketing has spread a lie that physical strength is the archetypal huge male body builder with massive over inflated muscles when really the greater power lies in leaner female muscle and more truthful marketing on strength is actually something like this
Deletehttps://www.temptalia.com/mac-strength-collection-for-spring-2013/
Regards, Vic
Vic,the model in that photo is incredible. Thanks for sharing . https://www.temptalia.com/images/spring2013/spring2013_macstrength001.jpg
DeleteYour welcome I remember when the campaign first come out it blew me away that they were using such an amazon to promote their product her name is jelena abbou there is an interview with her here https://www.shape.com/celebrities/interviews/who-female-bodybuilder-mac-ads
DeleteVic
Very interesting finds, Vic. In Jelena's interview, I admire her straightforward honesty. It is a very good and accurate example of healthy confidence which is also known as self-respect. Though all this is not exactly on my point. I used the term "marketing" with a broader meaning, which includes "unofficial" forms of marketing such as fake researches that "prove men as the stronger gender because men lift more" without telling us anything about the conditions or the sample characteristics. I think Xaan has already posted about this on the "US wrestling statistics" thread, but I am not sure I recall right. Elise
DeleteAgain thank you Elise i think you nailed it when you say self respect something male bully’s try to take away from girls in order to retain control. Vic
DeleteI just had to mention it. Self-respect has been quite an issue for ages. Male bullies are one reason but we as a gender also have our part of responsibility. I can't explain how glad I am about us starting to fix it. Emotions don't always fit well in words. Elise
DeleteI would love to hear you expand on that if you should ever have a mind to, Elise. There have been so many times I've experienced women who don't train ,but are stronger than me. I was helping a girlfriend tie down some things on top of her car, and she told me to tighten the rope. I pulled it as tight as I could, yet she took it away from me, somewhat irritated, and secured it twice as tight without effort. It was just one example of a woman simply being naturally stronger, tho I was much taller and heavier.i have so many memories. They just come to mind as I am thinking back. I clearly recall the day in fourth grade when my teacher mrs weimer, told the class that women were the stronger sex and why. I was already tuned in and aware of how uncomfortable the boys were, and how excited the girls were. I sat there thinking I will never forget that lesson. I also loved the teacher from that day on.
ReplyDeleteI 'll give you a clue. Marketing is an euphemism for intentional mispresentation. Think about the matter and come back to tell me your conclusions. Elise
DeleteMale "strength" is all about marketing. Carefully selected cases of strength achievements by men which are beyond the capabilities of most men are used by average males as if they were the norm. Meanwhile the greater accomplishments of women are kept hidden so that there is never a clear picture of the real superiority of females on a daily basis.
DeleteBig male muscles are not stronger in proportion to their size, but the marketing of big male muscles clouds the minds of people about where real strength resides.
There are many of us who've seen with our own eyes how women are stronger, smarter and more capable than men in spite of the "marketing" of the opposite.
You 're exactly on point, yboy. Too many times the best man and the worst woman have been used as "The Natural Norm". Big muscles are easily marketed as strong just because most people are used to thinking "bigger is better" and completely ignoring the factor of efficiency. I 'll not pretend the bright know-all, but, if something big isn't producing the power it is supposed to produce, it must be shit... Elise
Deletethis does get me thinking, Elise. Of course until recently the culture was overwhelmingly promoting men as strong and heroic, and women as frail and domestic. Never mind that women have always outdone men in endless labor and trials that would bring so called strong men to their knees. Portraying women as strong and powerful was generally done as a 'joke' in advertising and films. I used to catalogue and collect popular culture pieces that had women overpowering men, beating them at sports, 'wearing the pants' in the family, etc. what was being presented as humorous, seemed like a window on reality. In real life , I saw women as mothers, teachers, athletes that were clearly superior to men who only cared about drinking beer and watching football.
ReplyDeleteIn recent years, Women are not quite as disrespected as they were...often being leaders in ads, and heroic in films.....but it scares the hell out of insecure men. It is still assumed that men are really stronger, even as Women are passing them by in every way. As Women assume power in the workplace, at home, in sports....I think that it will be reflected in popular culture.If I had my way, commercials would portray Women coming home from work, greeting hubby who is cooking dinner, seating Her in an easy chair with a glass of wine as he sits on Her lap. There are so many examples of girls defeating boys on wrestling teams.....it needs to recognized as the norm. Of course we need a Woman president and Female controlled government and business. I think it is happening, just not quickly enough......due in large part to the male fiction of masculine power that still exists.
@Clark246, It always struck me as odd that it was considered OK for male fantasy characters like Superman to be totally strong and omnipotent beyond any real world possibility, but even in the total fantasy world of comic books etc, Females were still supposed to be weaker than males.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that the need for males to reinforce their imaginary superiority is so strong that it could be challenged in the fantasy realm ... until recently. As Women have moved into the upper echelons in all fields, They have begun to dismantle the male fantasy machine piece by piece ... now we are seeing the image of Female power confronting and overtaking erroneous male structures at every turn.
I like your idea for the commercials, except I think the male should be seated on the floor at Her feet, instead of in Her lap.
Well,where the male should be seated should be up to the Woman. If he is pleasing her then She may enjoy him sitting on Her lap.
ReplyDeleteAs far as tv, comics, etc, the portrayal of Women is finally starting to happen, in no small part because of the number of Women entering the field. it was great watching Supergirl overpower superman on Her show, and see him humble himself before Her afterwards.
In real life, I just saw pictures from a friend's 14 year old daughter who took up judo a year ago. She had just defeated a male who was much bigger and heavier. The photo of Her arm being raised while he stares at the floor is wonderful. We are entering a new age where the reality of Female superiority is taking over.
Of course, I agree it is for the Woman to decide. The Woman who i belong to usually prefers for me to be at Her feet, but every Woman has Her preference.
DeleteNot long ago it would have been hard to imagine a mainstream TV show establishing that Supergirl was superior to Superman for all to see. Now it is part of a rising tide. Certainly a new age.
Very good, Clark. Of course the aesthetic preferences on commercials are an entirely subjective matter, as yboy also points out in different wording, so I assume I have every right to make a few points about them:
Delete1)Work can be anything. Professional sport/training is very effectively a job and some women actually do it. So, if I were to script an ad, I would have the woman return from training, not just any kind of work. There wouldn't be the need to film her in training, all she 'd need is sport attire and good physical condition.
2)Men are provably better cooks than us, so I agree with the idea of the man doing his kitchen stuff as she comes back.
3)I disagree with "seating her in an easy chair". The female body recovers very quickly from any kind and level of fatigue - why not showcase this fact? Only in the case of furniture ads may she be "seated easy".
4)No reason for the woman to hold a glass of wine. If the ad is about the wine, better have the man drink it at some point. The woman must always be the symbol of health and sanity as long as you want realism. Better have her drink a glass of water if anything. Wine is considered "tasty" just because it is addictive.
5)As the woman arrives, she asks her husband whether food is ready.
-If the answer is yes, she gently escorts him out of the way, so that she can freely serve a portion for herself. Then, if there are kids in the family, the man proceeds to serve for them and leaves himself last as formerly ordered by the woman.
-If the answer is no, she comments "You knew what time I 'd come back, you need to start managing time better than that" in a calm tone that highlights her class and patience. The man will somehow go aggressive and she 'll teach him a good lesson on womanpower, while still keeping her cool. The man ends up kneeling and bowing. Lots of men have kneeled and bowed to me, so I think it is a very realistic script.
Leaving the ads and going to the government issue, I hope that by government you don't mean the actors seen in parliaments and congresses. There is not a solid "global conspiracy" that controls governments at will, there simply are some financial "big sharks" that try to impose their own interests, which may or may not be the same as those of the other "big sharks". Where the "big sharks" have the easiest job is where they agree with each other (such as it seems to be the case with trying to keep women as down as possible). Maybe some women have what it takes to take the "big sharks" down and put them in place, but I don't think the political scene is the right place to pull this off from, as its members automatically are easy targets for those "big sharks". Remaining unknown is a much better way to get the job done. The future is in our hands, just let's not blow it. Elise
Elise, you create a wonderful scenario, if I may say so. You include many details that certainly ring true, especially the instance of the man not living up to his obligations and getting aggressive when She asserts her authority resulting in lesson time. We males are naturally less stable emotionally and are often prone to outbursts when we are the least bit frustrated. Even a well trained male can sometimes revert to such unfortunate masculine instability.
DeleteI have a thought on the subject of political matters in which the current male dominated condition has resulted in rampant corruption and disarray. The world certainly is starving for Female authority to override the "big shark" syndrome. They say "power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely" but I think this saying really only applies to males who don't really deserve power in the first place. Real power is a Feminine thing and does not corrupt Women, who naturally deserve to have it. I think once Women have achieved a critical mass within the power structure, the remaining males will be bowing down just as the husband in your commercial does.
I see where you want to go, yboy. The corruption and disarray (as you correctly word it) is indeed due to male weaknesses that let room for it. In fact, the "big sharks" behave as sharks exactly because of their own male weaknesses, aggression being the most evident of them, else why do we name them sharks? (I hope we all understand that I just asked a rhetorical question.) I don't know the exact procedure, but somehow politicians always prove to be weak personalities - they somehow are chosen, what is happening with the personalities in the political scene is not normal, they 're all just like photocopies of each other, the real world isn't anywhere near that, is it? Any new power structure that occurs will need to respect the diversity of personalities and this means to choose the right personalities for every position. Respect isn't like "I accept you anywhere you want". Respect is much more like "I understand you so you will be put where you actually fit". Respect isn't two people's matter, it must work globally. The global crisis, which still persists, is a result of disrespect. Think about it if you want. Elise
DeleteElise, i think You bring up a very important point. The subject of diversity, especially in politics but in all positions of power is one which has always been dangerous to the male power structure. From a male 'big shark' perspective, diversity means including those who may legitimately challenge and overtake them. Keeping things uniformly male, and even there only a narrow definition of "male", means ruling out the Female.
DeleteI believe the 'real world' is indeed one in which there is great diversity of personalities, and of course that diversity includes many powerful Females who are now moving in on the sharks of the monolithic male power structures and presenting them with challenges they are ill equipped to defend against. Indeed, such 'photocopy' males have been so complacent in their illusion of power that they have actually become quite weak and are not the sharks they believe themselves to be.
As with any system which lacks diversity, the male monoculture is now quite vulnerable to real Female power. Unfortunately i fear there will always be disrespectful males who cannot understand what they are doing wrong, but hopefully they will not have the power to exert their toxic influence for much longer.
And thank You, i will think about with your wise words on the subject of respect and your valuable critiques of the comments of males in this blog.
There is little power in politics. The game is played in the background which is by all means being hidden from the masses. This is exactly why our gender isn't ruled out of politics anymore: the "big sharks" want people to perceive politics as "The Power Structure", so that nobody tries to infiltrate the actual "power structure", which obviously is "the big shark lobby". Comparing its behaviour to what has been observed as typical male behaviour leads to a firm conclusion that all "big sharks" are of male gender. The political scene was all-male for so long that the "big sharks" think "OK, now we can let women in politics so that they think they 're coming in power". But, given what I have seen of the women currently in politics, I am sure their still little number isn't coincidential, it simply is a result of the fact that they have somehow been chosen by the "big sharks". I only know of one female politician who tried to fix the problem: Zoe Konstantopoulou. As soon as they smelled her though, they set their media to ruin her public image so that the voters would throw her out of the political scene. And this is exactly what happened. She is nowhere to be seen now. If people were able to understand how her mentality can help fix the problem, she would still be up and running. All the other female politicians I 've happened to notice are typical pawns, just like their male counterparts. What a dishonour... Silvia
DeleteThank you for the comments , Elise. Your insight was very educational, and I hope I learned from it. I will also say that the domestic environment you described is absolutely ideal, and I hope that it becomes the norm. Fine tuning the advertising cartainly made me more aware. May I suggest the male is shown in his kitchen which is suitably designed to his masculine tastes, since it is his 'domain'. He could be wearing a delicate apron, ( not one of those backyard bbq things), and hand his Wife a jar he is unable to open,knowing She can do it easily. If they have kids, he will be training his son how to cook and take care of the house, while his Daughter is at football practice or some other endeavor. What a wonderful world of Female control.
ReplyDeleteI don't specialise on what men wear or how a masculine kitchen may be designed, but the scene with the jar is a very good idea. I 've never had trouble with jars although my mother did. I also agree with the idea of the father training the son on how to cook because it passes a more general message about the importance of preparation, which is often ignored by some people. Though, if we want the ad to be of reasonable duration, we 'll need to show the girl do her thing in the living room which will conveniently be directly visible from the kitchen. We tend to be precise with our moves, so we don't randomly damage stuff when we go full speed. Elise
DeleteI must say I am impressed and humbled at your ability to consolidate and communicate complex subjects, Elise. I also thank you for taking the time to consider my thoughts and respond to them. My mind tends to wander, while you clearly and consisely speak to the important points. That is typical of my sex I'm afraid. We do not have the depth of reasoning and thought that Women have, and we are easily sidetracked and unfocused.
DeleteFor what it is worth, I strive to be a male who supports and respects everything that this site is designed for. I know Women are superior and am in awe of your physical strength, mental abilities,emotional stability, and every other way you prove that you are the Stronger Sex. I love this site, and am thankful to be allowed to participate.
I must also thank you Elise for your posts. They are very educational and I enjoy reading them. The one with the jar would be great in an ad. In my marriage it's actually true. I can't open a jar when my wife has had the jar first. The lid is way to tight for me to open it.
DeleteIn my experience, Women are simply stronger than men, but usually don't flaunt it or think it odd. I was helping a gf tie down some things on top of her car, and she told me to tighten the rope. I pulled as hard as I could and thought I had done a good job. She came over, without saying a word took the rope from me and pulled it more than twice as tight then tied it off. She didn't say anything , but I noticed from that point she never asked for my help in anything, but it was clear who ' wore the pants', as she took charge of everything we did. I did playfully challenge her to armwrestle one night when we were drinking wine...she looked at me like I was crazy. She smirked, put her arm up and toyed with me, almost letting me win before decisively putting my arm down. She changed the subject quickly, as she didn't feel the need to gloat about what to her was the expected outcome. She was five eight, sturdy but not fat, long dark hair, and piercing brown eyes that could intimidate if she was staring. I've known other women just as strong and have realized that females are simply built stronger than males.
ReplyDeleteAnd another article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/lifestyle/why-more-women-than-ever-are-discovering-the-joy-of-weight-training-839118.html
ReplyDeleteThe last sentence in the article says it all: "Now women are better educated in what they can do as part of a broader training regime, mixing both cardio and resistance training, to get a lean, strong and toned physique,” she adds. “These days, I regularly see women deadlifting more than the men, and it’s super empowering.”"
... Notice it doesn't say "I regularly see more women deadlifting than the men... " but "I regularly see women deadlifting more than the men." Big difference!
Oof, at last...
DeleteAnother very interesting article regarding Women's superior muscular power over males https://barbend.com/women-training-volume/ ...
ReplyDeleteThe last key player I want to touch on is our differences in muscular fibers. While women typically have about two thirds the muscle mass men do, they have a greater proportion of Type 1 muscle fibers and capillary density. We’re talking around a 1 to 4 ratio of Type 1 fiber to total fiber area on most muscles. Since Type 1 muscle fibers hold more mitochondria and tend to be recruited a lot during more “endurance” activities, this allows for an increased ability to get more blood flow to the muscle and capacity to oxidize glucose for high volume workouts. Hence, women can handle their glucose better than men, making them more resistant to fatigue during strength training.
And if any of that was true, you wouldn't be so upset would you? Try reading the articles and get an education. "Not one was worth a dam"???? And yet each and every one of them could crush you to death with her thighs! Ha!
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