Further to a previous post about a male vs female fight scene in a James Bond film - it got me thinking about how things have changed in the past couple of decades. It is actually very common these days to see depictions of females overpowering or getting the better of males in mainstream TV drama series and films. I'm not quite sure as to why. Maybe it is seen as more entertaining to have an outcome to a confrontation which may be the opposite of what most people expect. Or maybe it is just because there are more female writers who want to change perceptions of female physicality?
Whether it's Agent Lisbon in "The Mentalist" or Siva from NCIS or countless other female characters tackling and arresting male baddies, there seems to be an appetite for this kind of mixed action drama. This is of course most welcome if it encourages more girls to change their views on their own physicality, my only problem with these portrayals is that they are rarely done convincingly.... What I mean by that is that the female characters concerned including the two mentioned above just don't have a convincing physical presence and don't look or act like they could punch their way out of a wet paper bag - therefore the action has to be so overly choreographed and contrived that it doesn't look realistic and ends up just being patronising.
That said, I recently saw a scene which nails it. It was in a drama series called Blacklist. What I could make of the plot is that a male and a female FBI agent were persuing a female assasin who lured her targets by posing as a prostitute and injecting them with deadly chemicals when they were at their most vulnerable. The FBI agents had tracked her down to a hotel where she had just completed a job. The male agent caught up with her in the lift and as he pulled his gun and tried to arrest her, a frantic fight ensued. One of the most convincing M/F fights I've seen on TV. The female assassin was tall - taller than the guy and had a good, powerful looking physique. Despite this the fight was actually quite even as they traded punches and took turns pinning eachother up against the walls of the lift car. Eventually the female's greater strength and skill prevailed. As more of her punches connected than his, the male gradually succumbed as she pressed home her advantage, jumping on his back and executing a choke hold. the male agent collapsed forward under her weight and passed out as she crushed him to the floor. She made good her escape as he lay defeated, motionless.
This was so much more realistic that most of the other M/F fights. Firstly because the female looked physically capable to start with and secondly because the fight wasn't totally one sided - the male FBI agent gave a good account of himself, visibly trying his hardest - but she was just too strong for him. Hollywood - take note. It is perfectly feasible and acceptable for a woman to prevail against a man in a physical fight - You don't have fake it...
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Mmm, that sounds interesting... Can you find it on the internet and give us a link? I am very curious now...
ReplyDeleteI can't find a clip, but it is in episode 6, season 1 and the female character is called Gina Zanetakos....
DeleteI would promise to look for it, but with my current schedule this is totally impossible, and I hate to fail my promises, so I promise nothing. If at some time you happen to find a clip, please post the link on this blog and let me know.
DeleteIn the movie naked weapon 2, a female ring girl knocks out a male boxing champion in a training fight.
ReplyDeleteThese scenes exists because it meets the market demand, people likes to watch it. More people accepts that a girl can defeat guys in a physical contest.
All of Gina Caronos movies are very realistic and possibly thee most realistc fight scenes ever, especially when she implements her takedowns and various chok holds.
ReplyDeleteThis is of course true. Haywire is a great movie but one of a kind probably as it was essentially made to showcase the talents of Gina. Although slightly "sanitised" in places and marred by the usual action movie cliches - the fight scenes were very realistic and you had no trouble believing this woman's physical superiority over her male challengers...
DeleteI should watch Haywire then...
DeleteI remember listening to a radio show once and a bloke ringed into the show and admitted that singer/actress Melanie C had beaten him up bad when he and her were in their early teens! He swore that he wouldn't lie about a thing like that and that they could ask her about it if they ever have her on their show and guaranteed she would remember and know who he is!
DeleteWow cool! Wonder how he must of felt when she first became famous? She was really into gymnastics and karate I think too.
DeleteDoesn't surprise me that she beat up boys. Wasn't she the sporty athletic one?
DeleteIt is getting more and more common amongst mainstream movies and tv, even in numerous sitcoms movies and shows that are aimed at kids/teenyboopers. I have a lot of nieces and nephews that watch a lot of that stuff, and I can recall at least a few instances where a girl beats up a guy and one where a boy is getting bullied by a girl and is legitimately afraid of her, and not much is even made of the fact that its a girl. Almost as if it's a more common natural accepted thing these days.
ReplyDeletefor example, what do you think about the villain xenia onatopp in the 007 movie goldeneye? was the actress who portrayed the russian spy killer who crushes men in bodyscissors to death believable in that role?
ReplyDeleteDefinitely, nothing unbelieveable about what Xenia Onatopp did in Golden Eye - most women could do the same in real life. I'm not saying there are no realistic portrayals of female physical superiority in TV and film - just that they are the exception rather than the rule. As mentioned previously, Bond films have quite a good record on this....
Deletei just thought that the actress portraying xenia was really too skinny, would have been better a more muscular and stronger one, in my opinion, to make the scene real
ReplyDeleteHmm, I get where you are coming from, although personally I wouldn't class famke Janssen as too skinny. She certainly looks more robust than the fragile waif-like creatures we see on US crime dramas apparently hurling 200 + llb guys around. Actually I just watched the clip where she crushes the admiral and you really don't see much in terms of detail - in fact we actually only assume that he was killed... so I guess realism wasn't that high on the director's agenda...
ReplyDeletelater in the movie they show the corpse....yeah, i agree with you..badly filmed. i still think famke janssen was way too skinny, they could have hired as an actress a more muscular and stronger girl, but sadly hollywood is scared by strong muscular females.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I suppose it could have been more convincing with a thicker more physically imposing woman. Hollywood is scared of strong muscular women, but then a again so is pretty much everyone else in terms of script writing and directing. Only occassionally do we get to see M/F action which isn't patronising on some level and even then it is usually fleeting. That is precisely why I created the New Amazon Nation project - which has no such restrictions...
Deletei have a suggestion..wouldn't be interesting to do an article and list the sports which can make a young girl strong (and therefore a strong woman in the future) ? i ask this since i believe that for this matter some sports are better than others. thanks :)
ReplyDeleteI remember that name, but not sure where I saw it... Thank you for letting us know.
ReplyDeleteScarlett-Johansson has been doing a lot of beating up guys lately in her movies. Although not all her fight scenes are super realistic she still applies a lot of grappling and ground fighting, and she definitely looks like a girl who is capable of doing thouse things physically!
ReplyDeleteScarlett though needs some improvement on her physique. She does have a lot of talent and can do massive things with it, but she has to work more on it before doing those things.
ReplyDeleteWould that be something along the lines of the Tales of Amazonia, one of the first posts in the blog? If so, what happened to that nice project?
ReplyDeleteYes, that is part of it. Still working on the new version of the comic book and almost ready to go for crowd funding on Kickstarter... Thanks
DeleteThere is loads of good Hollywood cinema which motivates female supremacy, but along with Bambi and Thumper, 3 films where I love the inspirational propaganda message of female power and the ability to defeat men in physical combat are faster pussycat kill kill, the last riders and terminator 3.
ReplyDeleteThe Varla fight scenes in faster pussycat starring and choreographed by Tura Santana are classics and have a brutal realism born from Tura’s actual experience of streetfighting and martial arts.
The first fight where she fights and kills the male jock is awe-inspiring; it truly demonstrates the physical superiority of a woman. As is common in a streetfight they end up tussling on the ground each vying for dominance yet the strong jock is slowly worn down and overpowered by the stronger Varla who winds him with a well-placed strike to his floating ribs following up with a combination of vicious blows that bust his nose. He is clearly outmatched and being beaten fair and square. Varla standing dominant and victorious over him gives him a final warning that he can still drive away. The Jock looks like he admits defeat, telling her maybe’s she right, but then he foolishly sucker punches Varla. BIG mistake! This is a classic example of the stupidity and cowardice of the male ego. Varla is furious now and flings him to the ground with a type of aikido wristlock known as nikyo. Consumed with blood rage the merciless Varla pounds a few more devastating strikes to his throat with the maniacal female lust for violence that occurs when you provoke a woman, after which, with perfect wrist control she spins him on his belly, his face driven into the dirt, she pulls both arms behind his back, his joints and bones snapping under the strain of the mighty Varla’s strength. Then foot on the base of his neck, a quick yank and it’s all over. Varla releases his limp arms, the mighty female towering boldly where the once proud man stood before.
Tura Satana was also a real life bad ass female, she trained early in martial arts, starting her marital arts study at the age of eight years old after being attacked by a gang of men. By the age of 12 she had 2 black belts in Karate and Aikido. By 13 she was running an all-girl street gang that terrorised all the boy gangs in the district forcing them to pay tribute. She also tracked down the men that attacked her when she was 8 and meted out her own justice. As a young woman she started her career as a dancer, where she met and dated Elvis Presley, introducing him to karate and becoming his first teacher. She knew both Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee with the story (pathetically denied by butt hurt Bruce Lee fan boys) being she bested Bruce when he made a chauvinistic remark about women’s ability to do martial arts. Tura took him down so quickly and decisively that not only did he apologise he asked her to teach HIM some of her moves!
Here is a link to the fight scene from faster pussycat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysVhlAfVqIA
Thanks for this - Yeah FPKK is an all time classic and this scene must have left audiences at the time pretty dunmbstruck as it seems to run contrary to the conventionality of the day. It is still pretty shocking today due to the brutal realism and sheer believability of Tura / Varla as a superior female. She not only looks like she could beat up any guy, but that she actually enjoys doing it!! You have no difficulty believing that this kind of woman could beat this kind of guy and this is where most modern day US drama depictions of so called "Kickass" females - get it annoyingly wrong.
DeleteThe other interesting aspect to this is that Varla represents the bad guy (or girl) in all of this and yet we root for her and look on with absolute glee as she overpowers and actually kills a man - the good guy! This really goes against the conventional grain and I wonder why the only time I ever root for the bad guy, is when the bad guy ......is a girl. I guess as a female supremacist, my very strong gut instinct is that any female victory over a male is ALWAYS a good thing, no matter what the circumstances and that is something I stand by in real life too. Also there is also something very appealing about the kind of wickedness that a female can bring to the fight, it is deliciously satisfying and serves as an extra layer of emotional torment to crush the poor guy, to which he has no defence....
I think when you have a good guy against a female villain, the man automatically becomes a symbol of patriarchy and the villainess becomes the rebel the under dog fighting against male tyranny and propaganda :)
DeleteVery succinctly put! Yes that is exactly what happens:) Maybe off-topic for this thread, but this reminds me of a debate I had recently offline with one of our members. We often talk and theorise about how best to propogate an Amazon culture in our western societies today. Whilst revolution and Gynarchy may be a way off just yet, there is nothing to stop individual girls thinking of themselves as Amazons today and adopting Amazon values, attitudes and lifestyles in preparation. We agreed that whilst combat sports is an ideal place to start for girls, the confidence they gain from beating guys on the mat should manifest itself in all other parts of the girl's life. including their attitude towards boys and men outside of the ring / dojo. Girls not only need to demonstrate social dominance over guys, but in so doing, need to show their friends how to do the same so that the process becomes self propogating.
DeleteSomewhere along the line the question arose: Is it ok for a budding Amazon girl to test herself by picking a fight with a male stranger, in the street or park, just to get the thrill of beating up a guy? My view was yes - absolutely. This was countered with the argument that as the guy had done nothing disrespectful or wrong, then it would be bullying - and that is not good. I pointed out that no man is innocent, even if he was not guilty of any overt wrong-doing, he is nevertheless a male and therefore plays his part in supporting the patriarchal system - which subdjugates women and descriminates against them. It may seem harsh but to me it represents a worthwhile trade off changing attitudes and spreading the new culture. To go back to my original point, it can look like you are supporting the bad guy (girl), when actually it is for the greater good. I think I convinced my partner and she soon dropped her objection - What would your take be?
Ha ha well, according to legend an amazon was not considered a warrioress until she had defeated a man in combat, and let’s face it, it’s not hard to find and come across a douche who probably deserves a kicking, so…. http://girlzruleownfuture.deviantart.com/art/he-needs-a-beating-463377786 lol
DeleteI do know that if I came across a scenario where I saw a woman having a go at a cowering man I would automatically think go girl, he obviously deserves it for doing something to annoy you. If I saw a man having a go at a cowering woman I would be straight over there to lay out the maggot!
(comment contd) The Last Riders is a film featuring the world class female fighter and pro wrestler Mimi Lesseos, another top female martial artist who imo also would of torn Bruce Lee apart (not wanting to hate on Bruce he was extremely talented very skilled and highly trained, but at the end of the day only a man). The opening scene features her in a bikini taking on 3 big tough guy bikers. Like the comment in another post expressing how symbolic in terms of female power it would be if femen enhanced their physicality, in the bikini clad Mimi we seethe emblem of a female predator in every respect, it is simply brutal they way she picks up, throws around and demolishes the macho bikers, a huntress wrecking machine.
ReplyDeleteThis is the fight scene here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk6PpRH280
Terminator 3 I add not so much for the fight scenes (we are talking about robots after all) but for the allegory to a coming new age of female supremacy and domination. The primary female warrior is the terminatrix, the most advanced cyborg yet. She is far superior to the older, obsolete male terminator cyborg. She arrives on the scene and immediately adopts the trappings of aggressive female dominance, red leather, black boots, sports car, powerful chest. She embarks on a trail of destruction, the terminator is no match for her which he himself is forced to admit. His fate is he ends up merciless at her feet, decapitated by a flick of her boot heel. A metaphor for how the coming gynarchy will smash and end patriarchy?
Honoury shout outs have to go out to the Pris v Deckard fight in blade runner, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9t5ikxjAQ4 , Xena of course(I am sure there is a great historical cover up on the incidence of warrior women defeating men in ancient history) and the Avengers where the male lead has to be protected by the stronger female lead. In particular a mention to Emma Peel in the episode ‘a touch of brimstone’ where there is a fight scene in which Emma Peel dressed in full dominatrix regalia completely takes apart a top male henchman who has fighting style somewhere between French kickboxing (savate) and ballet! It’s a bit dated but once again I love the symbolism! Here is the link (fight is near the end, beginning 41:07) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwjmIgG7wk4
Apart from nice fighting skills, the active woman in the Last Riders scene also shows a good sense of humour. Thing is, the small parts showing another woman just sitting around and watching the fight make it look like a comedy.
DeleteI hadn't seen the Last Riders clip - thanks. You can certainly tell the difference when the actress is accustomed to physical contact sports - the action is that much more convincing. I agree the symbolism works well with her taking on two bikers, dressed only in a bikini. It works on several levels. Far from being exploitative of the female, being in a state of undress affords her boldness and a higher level confidence. It also hugely intimidatory to her male foes and allows total freedom of movement. Above all of that it rams home in the strongest possible way, that the victor is a woman... there can be no doubt, no ifs, no buts, no argument. There is nothing anyone can do to mittigate the victory. This same principles are beautifully demonstrated in the fight scene at the end of Octopussy - my personal favourite! And also in the New Amazon Nation project (which I would also like to hear your take on - if you would?) Willing to answer any questions you may have...
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen T3, but like you think it is fitting that the latest most developed and capable cyborg takes the form of female and also see the significance of the metaphor for the future. Also loved the blade runner clip - never was much of a Xena fan - I just felt it was very muted and non-threatening - basically could have been much better executed. I agree with you about history lessons covering up the fact that women warriors fought alongside and against men. I remember The avengers growing up, and have seen this clip - again attire and symbolism are crucial - my favourite avengers clip was somewhat later and featured Joanna Lumley as Purdy in a green lycra catsuit and red leather boots kicking the crap out of a gang of male soldiers - all to protect Steed I think...
I disagree about Xena here we see a woman championed in a traditional male role. This series was responsible for uplifting many girls' self-esteem and at the same time create doubt in males about their dominance. Xena was shown at every opportunity easily beating crap out of males and saving the day. This program inspired young females to workout and train martial arts at a previously unprecedented level and mimic and "act out" Xena beat downs against men.:)
DeleteIt is important to emphasise how ground breaking Xena was as propaganda for fem supremacy and female dominance. Before Xena all strong or hardened female characters in media always needed the ‘assistance’ of a man who would invariably cede control from them so that they get in touch with their (patriarchal idea) of femininity. The Xena saga changed this and broke a sexual taboo in away neither she nor the amazon tribes ever submitted or lost to men and they always kept their power over men, for the time controversial I think! Ace
Yeah I take your point - she was an important icon and did a lot to break the mould the series was a turning point and as you rightly point out certain important principles of fem supremacy were upheld. I guess my lack of enthusiasm for Xena was because I longed to see something far more radical and I always got the feeling it was dumbed down, but I suppose on reflection it represented progress....
DeleteUpdate - Just a few days ago, I happened to watch Haywire. Very nicely done as a whole. Gina Carano is (and has to be) the star, but had the others done a bad job, the film would look very unbalanced. Gina's athletic scenes are of course the top element... We (women) are so natural fighters, runners, climbers etc and Gina does a great job showcasing exactly this thing.
ReplyDeleteThe original comment that started this post of has gone so I will repeat ;)
ReplyDeleteI remember as a kid being blown away the first time I saw Bambi and Thumper in diamonds are forever on telly. I had always been told boys are strong and girls were weak, but even then I was already getting sick and tired of the "boys are better" crap. But yet here was James bond, the epitome of masculinity, who had defeated some of the baddest villains ever seen in the movies, up against 2 girls who take it turns to easily give him the worst pounding of his career! In all the Bond films that I had seen before, every Bond girl would submit and swoon at the feet of the great male hero yet here he was getting beaten up by two girls! It was shocking seeing for the first time the disdain and contempt confident women could have for the all-powerful alpha male. It felt so good and empowering for me to watch the hero fall before female physical supremacy -2 physically superior females teaming up to take on one of the all-time top males - the movie representation of masculinity and male dominance over women ... but not together, they gave him a fair fight, one after the other, and each woman very easily beat him soundly, the blatantly superior females took it in turns to badly rough him up! xD xD
Bambi in particular I found so awesome, and even today she still is one of my favourite all time movie characters, she’s only in it for a couple of minutes, doesn’t say a lot and appeared a bit goofy dressed in her funny pre-lycra brown swimwear, hair braids and a bobble hat, but with expert gymnast and unarmed combat skills, she is strong, agile and tough – this stocky dorky girl was actually beautiful and also physically threatening, more powerful than the man. Like an amused predator, with a look of total female dominance, the hunger and sadistic intent in her eyes as she moved in on Bond, followed by her sheer joy as she gracefully beat the hell out of him her athleticism matched only by her viciousness … it was amazing! Soooo inspirational, this is who I wanted to be!
With playful ease and delight these girls gave bond such a terrible beating and even though they were the film baddies, I was so on their side! This scene with Bambi and Thumper was just the dose of contemporary femininity and example of girl power that I had been crying for! Instead of the weak woman yielding to the suave bond, the girls ‘had a ball’, as Thumper said she would at the start of the scene…and I cheered them on!
But then it all changed, I was soooo angry, The exhausted and beaten Bond had been such easy prey for the girl un armed combat experts, they tire of throwing him around the room and toss him into the outdoor pool, quickly seize the advantage and hold his head underwater and yet all of a sudden they then lost all their strength and skills, Bond immediately got the upper hand in the swimming pool and with one hand beat his indestructible female opponents!!. So unbelievable! I still feel cheated today - no man is able to defeat women like Bambi and Thumper and all girls can be like them, THE SUPERIOR SEX! Xx>>xy, #grrrlsrule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBEN4jtzh-4
This is an old thread, but I can't resist responding to this. I went to see Diamonds Are Forever as a teen, when it came out, with another boy and his dad. None of us were prepared for the Bambi and Thumper scene. I don't think anything like it had ever been seen in a major movie before. Everyone in the theatre gasped when the thumper lands the first kick on the great James Bond's manhood and all but defeats him in that single moment … I'm sure everyone expected Bond's usual macho swagger to easily dismiss the two 'bimbos' … but these weren't bimbos at all, were they? When thumper says "we're going to have a ball" it was suddenly clear what sort of "ball" she was talking about.
DeleteI could feel my heart pounding as I breathlessly watched the two high powered women simply demolish the icon of macho manliness and have fun doing it. It just got worse and worse for him fast. By the time the two superior women were able to hurl the dazed Bond into the pool he had been thoroughly destroyed … I was in shock, and my young friend and his dad seemed equally transfixed. The theatre was silent, though I swear you could hear other hearts beating especially hard as the exciting display of female power played out … the sheer pleasure Bambi and Thumper had as they dismantled this overrated overconfident male was exhilarating. I knew I was 'supposed' to be relieved when bond turned the tables on the women by pushing them under water just before they would have ended him, but I wasn't relieved at all. I wanted them to win … they beat him … they were the better fighters, stronger, faster, more skilled, and more beautiful by far than Bond. They deserved the victory. The women had WON!
Yes, it was ridiculous that Bond could have saved his skin by suddenly becoming stronger than two powerful females who had already pretty much torn him to shreds by the time they combined their strength to submerge what remained of him in a watery grave. But the impact that scene had on the male psyche was actually a real victory for female empowerment. It was a shot across the bow of the ship of patriarchy, a warning that this was only the beginning of male icons being demolished by superior females.
It was only two years later that Bobby Riggs would be similarly demolished by Billie Jean King and a real battle of the sexes would go to the tue stronger sex for all to see. No absurd Hollywood ending could save Bobby from the powerhouse Billie Jean.
Now women routinely defeat males in all kinds of sports and movies, tv, comic books and all other media are filled with unstoppable women mowing down males who are as ill equipped to counter the onslaught of their furious Amazon adversaries as a blade of grass is to stop a lawn mower blade. More and more males accept and even support the rising tide of female superiority in all forms, including the last of all male bastions: physical power. Women defeating males is no longer shocking, but actually expected.
Back in 1971, my friend and his dad couldn't even talk about the scene as we left the theatre, instead steering the conversation to other aspects of the film, but I could tell that they were thinking what I was, that their male egos would never quite be the same.
Bambi and Thumper really did demolish Bond after all.
Hey only just read this great post and man’s eye view of one of the first iconic cinematic scenes of female supremacy. Watching the standard bearer of all that is masculine getting such a beat down by 2 girls who looked so cool had such an effect on me as a girl growing up, it’s pleasing to think it scared and intimidated men to. And in a way the implausibility of how the fight finished after witnessing the strength and athleticism displayed by the female villains(especially as the actresses themselves were actually doing the scene) was such a lame attempt to try and display men’s dominance it only made the realisation that’s men’s position of power over women is totally an artificial creation! #girlzrmanbeaters Ace
Delete"the implausibility of how the fight finished after witnessing the strength and athleticism displayed by the female villains(especially as the actresses themselves were actually doing the scene) was such a lame attempt to try and display men’s dominance it only made the realisation that’s men’s position of power over women is totally an artificial creation!" ... Ace, exactly! ... the beatdown Bond got from Bambi and Thumper was actually quite believable and real ... I wonder how many males left the theatre believing that Bond (or any man) could actually have turned the tables like that! It's laughable. Another similar scene is the battle between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike in the first X Men movie. She has him completely overwhelmed and, considering it's a super hero movie and so the fight is full of impossible stuff, it still is very believable that the FEMALE: faster, more flexible, higher energy, using every part of her body with equal skill and power ... should defeat the bigger slower lumbering male. Again, the filmmakers pander to the male ego by having him defeat her at the final moment by - impossibly - catching her off guard just as she is about to finish him off. In the past (long ago by now) we would never have seen a woman get so close to destroying a strong male ... it's now completely believable that the only reason the males win in these scenes is not because they are truly stronger or better fighters, but because the females make one unfortunate mistake that the male can take advantage of. As you say, Ace ... it's lame (not a coincidence that "lame" is an anagram of "male"). ... https://youtu.be/e4Hdubzs7kk
DeleteI think they only reason the males win in scenes is to try and keep up the myth that men are better than women - it is practically forbidden to suggest in films that women shouldn't always submit to men in the end
Deletethe better and stronger women are becoming the more patriarchy is trying to use psychology to keep us under their thumb they are not giving up easy :( Ace
Psychology may turn out to be the last resort of patriarchy since the physical inferiority of males has become scientific fact, even if it's denied by a lot of men. Of course, women will always ultimately win as desperate masculinists scramble for some way to forestall the inevitable. The fantasy of male superiority - or equality - will eventually only exist in science fiction movies.
DeleteI wasn't old enough to have seen "Diamonds" at the cinema but I saw it on TV as a child and wholeheartedly echo the sentiments of yboy. The Bond film I did see at the cinema though was Octopussy. The palace fight scene at the end had a huge affect on me, At the time I felt emasculated and humiliated, even angry. How could these women be beating up the men so easily? My 12 year-old male brain just couldn't process it. I had gone with a large group of friends from my new school, most of whom were girls. The girls clearly loved that scene, as we left the cinema they were bouncing around all over the place, doing high kicks and wanting to play fight with us boys.
DeleteIt took me a long time to come to terms with it but now I love it and I love this blog i love what you are doing, especially the comic book thing which is excellent, I can se the Octopus connection for sure.
Jim (not exactly an Amazon name)
A friend of mine has a psychology degree, and guess what: she says we are better than men at psychology as well.
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Hi Jim yeah the palace fight is a great scene, have you read my posting in the Barbara Carrera thread on the possible inspiration for the Octopus cult, Mochizuki Chiyome and her kunoichi :)
ReplyDeleteIts fascinating the polarising effects has on the genders when woman are shown kicking crap out of men, girls are inspired and boys get frightened...because deep down they know that this can all too easily be reality xD #girlzrule Ace
Hi Ace, thanks yes I have just read it, it's amazing where do you find this stuff out? It proves it's not just a fantasy! I also saw Never say never again at the cinema a few months later i think. It was strange to have two 007 films in the cinema so close. I now know why, it was basically a remake of Thunderball, kind of an attempt at revenge for Connery and Kevin Mclory against Cubby Broccoli.People say its not a proper James Bond, but it worked for me and of course the clip of Fatima Blush beating the crap out of Jack was very intimidating especially as I was with my new girlfriend at the time. Still nursing a bruised ego from Octopussy, this was all I needed. She made it worse by being suddenly energised and unable to stop talking. I now realise that the scene had obviously turned her on and she just couldn't contain herself...grrrr Jim
DeleteThe diner scene from natural born killers!!!!
ReplyDeleteLoved it so much when I saw it it girl power girl kicks ass!!! <3 polegirl
https://youtu.be/yP3roygSBmU
Wow. That's intense. Interesting that the male killer relies on weapons but the girl killer just fights unarmed, using only her body to destroy her opponent.
DeleteWarrioress with cecily fay, the story and acting is downright terrible, but her martial arts skills are out of this world!! Paul https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTPKnVomwAg
ReplyDeleteWomen have always been tougher & & more vicious in a fight but years ago fewer of them fought. Now they are realizing their abilities & getting stronger more & more Women can kick our asses! We,d better start being nicer to them if we know what<s good for us.
ReplyDeleteGreat Girl Power fight scene! https://youtu.be/yP1ZM6botZk
ReplyDeleteGreat fun to watch as well xD
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In spite of Jennifer Garner's potential, Peppermint doesn't have enough scenes of this type. I consider it a step backwards from Haywire.
ReplyDeleteWomen can definitely punch out a guy if they want. All they have to do is move that sexy body around a bit and then when he's staring, pow, give him a sucker punch. Then punch his lights out, easy for any size woman on any size guy
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